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Is it the color or cap-toe Oxford bit that you dont like? I think a Black split toe derby looks good maybe from TLB or St. Crispin.
I have contemplated 2 eyelet derbies for a rakish or louche fit for that use case.
Crockett and Jones once had an appealing model that I think was only sold in their French store. Carmina used to have one on the Rain last which doesn't work for me. That model doesn't seem to be available in their current MTO offerings. Corthay has had them forever, usually in over the top colorways
would not do double monk personally, is Adelaide too formal for you?
derby wise I would pick CJ Ashdown, it's just the right side of sleek and casual
About as formal as a captoe, unless, perhaps in a color other than black.
I am really not a fan of Scotch grain.
It's undoubtedly a frustrating endeavor to determine what works for me. I am, however, grateful for any inspiration.
There is a 80% chance I will end up with black captoe.
About as formal as a captoe, unless, perhaps in a color other than black.
I am really not a fan of Scotch grain.
It's undoubtedly a frustrating endeavor to determine what works for me. I am, however, grateful for any inspiration.
There is a 80% chance I will end up with black captoe.
ash down come in plain leather as well, how about Alden cap toe blutcher
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yea, Alden is not particular sleek, especially not in barrie, how about these CJ for Bodiley
I "think" they're on 341, but better email bodiley to confirm (they couldn't diclose they're CJ publically or which last they're on)
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I have been of the long-held notion, fed by a decade of blog posts on essential footwear penned by material fetishists frequently photographed in Florentine alleys and cafes wearing Carmen Sandiego hats and demonstrating chaste enjoyment in the company of similarly-dispositioned men with facial hair and small, leather portfolios, that I need a pair of perfect black oxfords. Having not yet realized this mandate, and with nothing more meaningful with which to occupy my time, I have recently taken to fretting over which of a very expensive selection of this ur- item is for me, while continually running up against the reality that my feet aren't built for oxfords, let alone RTW, and customs and international shipping is expensive as ****. I'm also continually reminded of the lack of utility of a black oxford in a closet that is, but for one, not comprised of suits.
Which brings me to the question: what dress shoe might be a better investment of my frivolous nitpicking? I have one pair of brogues in a cherry/burgundy that, until now, had served as my "dress shoe", as well as a growing collection of loafers. I don't feel it wise to invest in an almost duplicate of this shoe, so that leaves black derbies or brown oxfords or derbies, noting the constraint in finding a pair of the former style that actually fits. This seems like a sorry and limited selection and leads me to want to abandon the effort altogether. But then I am met with the limited nature of my dress wardrobe, which, I should note, I am trying to expand.
So, post pics of the dress shoes you wear, with an eye to versatility. Bonus points if you can demonstrate black oxfords not worn with a suit.
Lol, like your first few sentences there, quite fitting. I too have been feeling this, but I realized, much like Dieworkwear pointed out about men in general these days, that I’m only suit clad about 10% of the time, the rest is sport coats and trousers or such. Beacuse I also agree that staid oxfords don’t look right outside of a suit, I’ve resisted. I have a pair of wholecut single monks in black that look quite proper with the ten percent of the time I wear a suit. Unlike you however, my damn feet won’t fit derbies well without gaping on the side presumably due to low arches or some ****. That’s why I‘m on a Chelsea boot kick as of late; the elastic and leather hugging nature cradles my feet and they look good with sport coats, at least the ones I buy. A good middle ground I figure
I feel you, though, it’s a pain **********
I have been of the long-held notion, fed by a decade of blog posts on essential footwear penned by material fetishists frequently photographed in Florentine alleys and cafes wearing Carmen Sandiego hats and demonstrating chaste enjoyment in the company of similarly-dispositioned men with facial hair and small, leather portfolios, that I need a pair of perfect black oxfords. Having not yet realized this mandate, and with nothing more meaningful with which to occupy my time, I have recently taken to fretting over which of a very expensive selection of this ur- item is for me, while continually running up against the reality that my feet aren't built for oxfords, let alone RTW, and customs and international shipping is expensive as ****. I'm also continually reminded of the lack of utility of a black oxford in a closet that is, but for one, not comprised of suits.
Which brings me to the question: what dress shoe might be a better investment of my frivolous nitpicking? I have one pair of brogues in a cherry/burgundy that, until now, had served as my "dress shoe", as well as a growing collection of loafers. I don't feel it wise to invest in an almost duplicate of this shoe, so that leaves black derbies or brown oxfords or derbies, noting the constraint in finding a pair of the former style that actually fits. This seems like a sorry and limited selection and leads me to want to abandon the effort altogether. But then I am met with the limited nature of my dress wardrobe, which, I should note, I am trying to expand.
So, post pics of the dress shoes you wear, with an eye to versatility. Bonus points if you can demonstrate black oxfords not worn with a suit.