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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dieworkwear, Aug 4, 2012.

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  1. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Thanks JP. Thats the book. Damn, I want so many. I appreciate all of your opinions.
     
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    Taking the plunge into bespoke, Spoo?
     
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    is this a designer? what I see is high top chucks with fake dirt and a toe spring most elves would frown at, all at a low low 4 figure price.

    call me ignorant, this is ridiculous
     
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    OK, thanks. Thankfully, I've always been more of a fina fan.


    Size 11 is already gone, LOL.

    With many of these high-priced fashion pieces, it's almost like the price is some kind of conceptual joke. Like the price is not only what is asked for the artwork, but is actually an intrinsic part of it.
     
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    It's the new name for the very well respected Roman brand "Augusta". iirc, those sneakers are largely hand sewn, and that are buffalo or horseskin. It's a very stylized look of which I am not a fan, but the toe shape is actually fairly difficult to achieve (I know someone who designed boots for another company, who tried to imitate that shape, and it took him several months of experimentation to get somewhere approximate.) There is a lot of post-manufacture processing. Washed blacks and greys are actually very difficult to achieve. Black dye is often not formulated correctly, and if you wash out enough of the pigment, a black will actually reveal itself to be purple or green. Similarly, dying leather grey is ridiculous. You try to get a traditional belt maker to make you a dove grey belt, and you'll be looking a while (I have been.)

    A lot of work goes into those boots. You might not like them - they are certainly not for me - but they are definitely not something you can do with a pair of leather Chucks in your basement. If you could replicate them reasonably, you should probably be in design.

    The boots, in person, are actually very impressive, though they would certainly not be MC approved. Let me ask -if the soles were leather, would you be as incredulous, or just chalk it up to something you don't care to understand?

    Ironically, they are also sold as "timeless" by retailers who carry them.
     
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    Sorry, but they're not handstitched, and that stuff about the toe shape and the dyeing is just a simple factor involved in designing almost anything. Yes, it's a little more complex than what the layperson thinks, but that's part of the job and expertise.

    No, I don't think they're comparable to chucks and yes I am comfortable with the fact that people will and should pay primarily for design.

    But no, I don't think there's any need to drink the coolaid. They're a massive ripoff.
     
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    I would have thought you'd approved because they're not gemmed.
     
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    I've been thinking about that 80s "quarterback" look, with the heavily padded shoulders, and realized that I didn't know how and when that trend got going, and which designer (if any) set it off. Anyone have any idea? I remember coming across some old Sidi and Hugo Boss ads from cirka 1984-1985 that all featured this style, and I also vaguely recollect someone mentioning in the top 50 menswear brands thread that Gaultier was an early pioneer of this look ...

    For reference, here's Pierce Brosnan in a 1982 episode of Remington Steele. The silhouette of his suit I think is typical of early 80s suits:

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    And here he is in 1985:

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    So I was browsing around on Tumblr and it seems that Men of the Cloth, the documentary, has a Kickstarter campaign.
    Link is here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1508357355/men-of-the-cloth-humble-men-who-make-exalted-cloth

    I thought this movie ended up getting scrapped a couple of years ago (or more?) but it looks like it is back. Is there anything we can do to see it through? Maybe a dedicated thread? Fok? SF $5 donation surge?

    Unfortunately I found the campaign just now and it looks like it's closing in a couple days, so I dunno if it is doable. I feel like I heard about this flick eons ago but every time it pops up it fails due to financing issues. What say you? I think it's probably like O'Mast, only fewer jazz interludes. [​IMG]
     
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    Don't know if that was a joke, but Gianluca is no aristocrat. He scraped together the funding for that project through a lot of hard work.
     
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    That would be Armani. For good or for (very, very) bad, they singlehandedly changed the suit silhouette in a very dramatic way.
     
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    Oh, yeah? My bad. I thought I read that somewhere. I'll edit the post so no one is harmed. I'm bedridden and on painkillers FWIW so I cannot be counted on [​IMG]
    Let's support both movies, since they offer an intriguing cross-continental perspective.
     
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    Aha! Thanks.
     
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    Thoughts on the fit of the coat?
     
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    Was the next size smaller too tight for you ?
     
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    This is the smallest size (xs - 46), aj_del.
     

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