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So what do all you trendsetters think about this style of cardigan? Buttonless, hanging straight down. Would be great with a polo or tee, I think.
Don’t like it. Seems a bit useless to me.
 

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You could also just go with a chunky shawl collar cardigan. Slightly different vibe but still lounge-y
Oh I already own two of those. The reason I’m into this one is that it’s different and a lightweight cotton/silk mix.
 

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Speaking of chunky cardigans, is there any way to remove a zipper from a chunky cardigan sweater and still maintain its structural integrity? I got the below sweater for about 90% off. But as I mostly leave it open, the zipper bothers me because it's a bit of unneeded shininess, and makes the sweater drape a bit oddly as I move. I feel like the cheapskate gods punish me sometimes.

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@IJReilly -- If you're looking for something a bit different, I might go for a cashmere cardigan with a hood. It can be really dressed down or up, and looks its best when open. Isaia used to make one that was really great (pics below), but I've seen them elsewhere in Italy. These often go on deep discount too because it seems like they're not that popular. Also, according to a person who knows about these things, I think I was wrong about the drape of the above sweater. I'm going to edit that post out.

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I have been of the long-held notion, fed by a decade of blog posts on essential footwear penned by material fetishists frequently photographed in Florentine alleys and cafes wearing Carmen Sandiego hats and demonstrating chaste enjoyment in the company of similarly-dispositioned men with facial hair and small, leather portfolios, that I need a pair of perfect black oxfords. Having not yet realized this mandate, and with nothing more meaningful with which to occupy my time, I have recently taken to fretting over which of a very expensive selection of this ur- item is for me, while continually running up against the reality that my feet aren't built for oxfords, let alone RTW, and customs and international shipping is expensive as fuck. I'm also continually reminded of the lack of utility of a black oxford in a closet that is, but for one, not comprised of suits.

Which brings me to the question: what dress shoe might be a better investment of my frivolous nitpicking? I have one pair of brogues in a cherry/burgundy that, until now, had served as my "dress shoe", as well as a growing collection of loafers. I don't feel it wise to invest in an almost duplicate of this shoe, so that leaves black derbies or brown oxfords or derbies, noting the constraint in finding a pair of the former style that actually fits. This seems like a sorry and limited selection and leads me to want to abandon the effort altogether. But then I am met with the limited nature of my dress wardrobe, which, I should note, I am trying to expand.

So, post pics of the dress shoes you wear, with an eye to versatility. Bonus points if you can demonstrate black oxfords not worn with a suit.
 

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Speaking of chunky cardigans, is there any way to remove a zipper from a chunky cardigan sweater and still maintain its structural integrity? I got the below sweater for about 90% off. But as I mostly leave it open, the zipper bothers me because it's a bit of unneeded shininess, and makes the sweater drape a bit oddly as I move. I feel like the cheapskate gods punish me sometimes.

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@IJReilly -- If you're looking for something a bit different, I might go for a cashmere cardigan with a hood. It can be really dressed down or up, and looks its best when open. Isaia used to make one that was really great (pics below), but I've seen them elsewhere in Italy. These often go on deep discount too because it seems like they're not that popular. Also, according to a person who knows about these things, I think I was wrong about the drape of the above sweater. I'm going to edit that post out.

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I actually like it with zip...
 

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I actually like it with zip...
I like it with the zip when it's buttoned up, but not so much when it's opened. I feel it makes the sweater move a bit oddly, and that it looks a little out of place.

I know it's a long shot, but do you have any experience with this sweater?
 

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I never like to wear the combo of zipper and buttons. Too fussy. One or the other is fine, but not both.
 

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Yeah, I agree. I'm wondering if I get it taken off. Otherwise I'm stuck wearing the thing buttoned.
 

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I have been of the long-held notion, fed by a decade of blog posts on essential footwear penned by material fetishists frequently photographed in Florentine alleys and cafes wearing Carmen Sandiego hats and demonstrating chaste enjoyment in the company of similarly-dispositioned men with facial hair and small, leather portfolios, that I need a pair of perfect black oxfords. Having not yet realized this mandate, and with nothing more meaningful with which to occupy my time, I have recently taken to fretting over which of a very expensive selection of this ur- item is for me, while continually running up against the reality that my feet aren't built for oxfords, let alone RTW, and customs and international shipping is expensive as fuck. I'm also continually reminded of the lack of utility of a black oxford in a closet that is, but for one, not comprised of suits.

Which brings me to the question: what dress shoe might be a better investment of my frivolous nitpicking? I have one pair of brogues in a cherry/burgundy that, until now, had served as my "dress shoe", as well as a growing collection of loafers. I don't feel it wise to invest in an almost duplicate of this shoe, so that leaves black derbies or brown oxfords or derbies, noting the constraint in finding a pair of the former style that actually fits. This seems like a sorry and limited selection and leads me to want to abandon the effort altogether. But then I am met with the limited nature of my dress wardrobe, which, I should note, I am trying to expand.

So, post pics of the dress shoes you wear, with an eye to versatility. Bonus points if you can demonstrate black oxfords not worn with a suit.
Is it the color or cap-toe Oxford bit that you dont like? I think a Black split toe derby looks good maybe from TLB or St. Crispin.
 

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I prefer buttons as zippers, as mentioned above, make the sweater hang weird when open. Dislike zippers in general I guess.
 

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I have contemplated 2 eyelet derbies for a rakish or louche fit for that use case.

Crockett and Jones once had an appealing model that I think was only sold in their French store. Carmina used to have one on the Rain last which doesn't work for me. That model doesn't seem to be available in their current MTO offerings. Corthay has had them forever, usually in over the top colorways
 

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I have contemplated 2 eyelet derbies for a rakish or louche fit for that use case.
I bespoke a pair of dark blue double-monks with a similar idea.
 

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