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[unbelragazzo]

Thanks for finding that dopey post. Reminds me also that I am due for a re-read of some tutee posts.

 

[The Thin Man]



Thanks for finding that dopey post. Reminds me also that I am due for a re-read of some tutee posts.

I actually asked (e)tutee three years ago if I could repost a lot of his Apparel Arts-related posts, when I thought there may be a prominent place for such posts after the StyleForum redesign. He kindly replied that it would be fine, as long as I didn't include the text he wrote for the London Lounge. But then the "instructionals" or whatever they were called disappeared from the site. I just think it would be nice to have a single place to appreciate all of the research (and scanning) that he did.

 

[dieworkwear]



Windowpane is much better

Thanks for the feedback, @gdl203, @Sotiris, and @unbelragazzo. I think you're right about the windowpane.

 

[Pingson]

Windowpane is much better

Thanks for the feedback, @gdl203, @Sotiris, and @unbelragazzo. I think you're right about the windowpane.

@dieworkwear, I've got that exact windowpane dressing gown (from Merchant Fox, right?) and I can vouch for it being a beautiful cloth. When I got it, I put some photos of it here:

http://mostlyharmless.se/post/43642464644/the-merchant-fox-opened-in-2011-as-an-an-online

 

[dieworkwear]



@dieworkwear, I've got that exact windowpane dressing gown (from Merchant Fox, right?) and I can vouch for it being a beautiful cloth. When I got it, I put some photos of it here:

http://mostlyharmless.se/post/43642464644/the-merchant-fox-opened-in-2011-as-an-an-online

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That looks great, Pingson. Makes me feel more confident about going with the windowpane. And yes -- the gown is from TMF.

 

[VRaivio]



I guess the Passagio Cravatte affiliate thread is shutting down, which means all the posts will be gone. Figured I'd save this somewhere, since it was one of the more useful posts out of the whole thing.

...so Styleforum has been duped by Southern Italian shenanigans?

 

[unbelragazzo]



...so Styleforum has been duped by Southern Italian shenanigans?

...sigh....

 

[dieworkwear]



...so Styleforum has been duped by Southern Italian shenanigans?

Gianni is actually Northern Italian, if that means anything.

 

[unbelragazzo]



Gianni is actually Northern Italian, if that means anything.

Sounds like you have been duped by some Southern Italian shenanigan.

 

[dieworkwear]



Sounds like you have been duped by some Southern Italian shenanigan.

If I can be honest, I can't tell the difference. They all sound the same to me.

[VIDEO][/VIDEO]

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Can somebody summarize what happened with Gianni?

 

[FlyingMonkey]

Can somebody summarize what happened with Gianni?

Fashion journalist comes across a supply of old Italian silk fabric offcuts.

Thinks 'I could get ties made out of those and sell them as 'vintage' at a premium - especially if I do it in Napoli!'.

Invents authentic-sounding back-story.

Gets good publicity by sending free samples from his best fabrics to bloggers.

Builds up following of friend-customers on SF with his exclusive offerings, quirky Italian English, apparent expertise, and enthusiasm.

Demands rapidly exceeds supply, so he turns to any available fabric offcuts. He can't tell the difference anyway so how would anyone else?

Some real experts notice that some of the 'vintage' fabrics are 1. not that old; and/or, 2. English not Italian; and/or, 3. inkjet-printed; and/or, in some cases, 4. acquired by dubious methods;

Friend-customers start to become unhappy with broken promises, lengthy waiting times and evasion of basic questions.

Leaves SF and continues to sell by other means, hoping that no-one else has noticed.

 

[poorsod]

I had met Gianni and Marta in Milan a few months back and they seemed perfectly reasonable. Then all the controversy about Passaggio Cravette started and had me worried for a while that I wouldn't get the ties that I ordered. I did receive my ties eventually but it wasn't without some anxiety. I like the ties I received and I'm thinking of getting more because he has patterns that I have seen nowhere else.

Unlike some people, the age of the fabrics have never been selling point for me.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

I see, but saying something is something, but it isn't something is ****** and he should sit in the corner for that.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I had met Gianni and Marta in Milan a few months back and they seemed perfectly reasonable. Then all the controversy about Passaggio Cravette started and had me worried for a while that I wouldn't get the ties that I ordered. I did receive my ties eventually but it wasn't without some anxiety. I like the ties I received and I'm thinking of getting more because he has patterns that I have seen nowhere else.

Unlike some people, the age of the fabrics have never been selling point for me.

I really just think he bit off more than he could chew due to the rapid expansion of the business.

Personally, it was the combination of unique fabrics and the age that attracted me (as someone with an interest in the history of urban style). However the price seemed excessive from the start. It's all been a very interesting case-study in how luxury and niche markets work.