Maomao x Gaz Italian Sartorial Adventure 2012

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  1. TRINI

    TRINI Senior member

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    I've found that I've been able to wear my fresco suits well past the summer months so adding an extra layer only adds to the suit's versatility.
     
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    +1. I'll even wear a sweater with my fresco in the Autumn months.
     
  3. kolecho

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    Not if you live in HK. 3 piece will take the suit close to year round use in HK.
     
  4. Eustace Tilley

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    Its not just about the weight and fresco's intended use as a summer cloth. The surface texture of fresco is, I think, at odds with the formality of a vest.
     
  5. Kuro

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    is this from teh Frontier bunch?​
     
  6. A Y

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    That's the reason I do it too (3-piece DB in my case). The open weave can be a bit too breezy, and an extra layer helps. A sweater vest could fix it, too, I guess.
     
  7. F. Corbera

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    I have a shawl DB vest with one heavy fresco suit.

    Just the one, though.
     
  8. gazman70k

    gazman70k Senior member

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    I am intrigued. How did you arrive at this conclusion?
     
  9. Eustace Tilley

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    Well, its hardly a mathematical treatise and nothing more than personal opinion (one that I think / hope is shared by a few others). I think a vest, inherently a formal garment, does not lend itself well to a plain porous weave like Fresco, which has always struck me as a more casual / rustic fabric.
     
  10. gazman70k

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    Didn't mean to put you on the spot and appreciate your personal preference.

    For me, an open weave fabric like Fresco does not strike me as being formal or casual. However, I do admit that my attention to suiting details like this may be less sophisticated than yours.

    I focused on the colour of the suiting and I think the choice of a mid-grey suit with a vest offers the versatility that I am looking for in a hard wearing year-round travel suit. Besides, if we abide by the notion that Fresco is a casual fabric and a vest is a formal article, then I like the juxtoposition of having a formal garment made from a casual fabric. It plays better than a casual garment made from a formal fabric. :happy:
     
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  11. gazman70k

    gazman70k Senior member

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    Addendum to Day 1, Naples, Part 2

    In my haste, I forgot to include the fitting of my double breasted suit made from 16 oz. worsted H. Lesser.


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  12. F. Corbera

    F. Corbera Senior member

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    A laconic fabric?
     
  13. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    Fair enough. As I said, its very much personal preference and, needless to say, a well-executed three-piece fresco like yours will certainly look good.

    F. Corb: [​IMG], though unlike FNB, I do really like fresco.
     
  14. A Y

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    Tweed vests are also not too uncommon. The other objection I've heard to fresco vests is that it kind of defeats the purpose of the open weave because you'd wear fresco when it was warm, and adding another layer of warmth under that doesn't make sense.
     
  15. F. Corbera

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    I consider heavy frescos transitional season fabrics, nearly like a hopsack. For light and ultralight frescos, true, one selects them usually for their porosity for warm weather.

    For the heavier ones, though, it's texture and wear qualities that come to the fore.

    I guess that I'm old enough not to make a direct association between heartiness in a fabric with reduced formality. A lot of old city and formal cloth were monsters, neither smooth nor light. It could be an age thing, though.
     

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