Manly Things

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  1. jay allen

    jay allen Well-Known Member

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    Ah pfui. I rather think that many people who actually embody those characteristics don't even know it, due to the dilution and obfuscation of the concept of masculinity into Bubba, hippie, professional, metrosexual, and homosexual, combined with the revisionist tendency each group has upon the concept, as they all are trying to raise their concept of man and emasculate the other. "A man's first obligation is to his definition of the concept of manhood." Controlling the definition controlls the concept. Man, in an a priori sense, is defined by in terms of humanity, in comparison to animals, and relative to woman. I judge a man less on bluster and abilities, and more on character and restraint -- what he can, but chooses not, to do, and his relations with the women that are in or pass through his life. Breaking boulders is no measure of a man. Well-loved wife and kids must be the ultimate achievement, and respect the ultimate satisfaction. Regards, Huntsman
    I feel compelled to ask....without an ounce of disrespect......have you ever, even once, cracked a smile?
     


  2. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Ah pfui. I rather think that many people who actually embody those characteristics don't even know it, due to the dilution and obfuscation of the concept of masculinity into Bubba, hippie, professional, metrosexual, and homosexual, combined with the revisionist tendency each group has upon the concept, as they all are trying to raise their concept of man and emasculate the other. "A man's first obligation is to his definition of the concept of manhood." Controlling the definition controlls the concept.

    Man, in an a priori sense, is defined by in terms of humanity, in comparison to animals, and relative to woman. I judge a man less on bluster and abilities, and more on character and restraint -- what he can, but chooses not, to do, and his relations with the women that are in or pass through his life. Breaking boulders is no measure of a man. Well-loved wife and kids must be the ultimate achievement, and respect the ultimate satisfaction.

    Regards,
    Huntsman

    Eloquent explanation Huntsman, I like it. [​IMG]
    P.s. if you were wondering, I don't have any sort of real trouble with myself; I just often find it hilarious how different I seem to be from the traditional Anglo-american norms of "manlyness" [​IMG] - although I would not mind some extra muscle mass and brawn, lol.
     


  3. Huntsman

    Huntsman Senior member

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    I feel compelled to ask....without an ounce of disrespect......have you ever, even once, cracked a smile?

    Yes.

    Thursday, April 29, 2004, a little after 10:00pm. Men went silent. Mothers reached for their kids. Children screamed. [​IMG]

    Also ten thousand time before, and a couple of thousand since. I even laugh. But never without sincereity and abandon. I actaully brought up the whole rock-breaking thing, btw. Broke a few in Maine -- great state. Wish the Hiram Maxim machinegun shoot hadn't been closed down though.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     


  4. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Yes.

    Thursday, April 29, 2004, a little after 10:00pm. Men went silent. Mothers reached for their kids. Children screamed. [​IMG]

    Also ten thousand time before, and a couple of thousand since. I even laugh. But never without sincereity and abandon. I actaully brought up the whole rock-breaking thing, btw. Broke a few in Maine -- great state. Wish the Hiram Maxim machinegun shoot hadn't been closed down though.

    Regards,
    Huntsman


    Wow, I remember that day. I thought the sudden tremor felt throughout the earth was due to Engelados' rumbling [​IMG]

    Btw, what is all this about the Maxim gun? Inquiring minds et.c. [​IMG]
     


  5. jay allen

    jay allen Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Thursday, April 29, 2004, a little after 10:00pm. Men went silent. Mothers reached for their kids. Children screamed. [​IMG] Also ten thousand time before, and a couple of thousand since. I even laugh. But never without sincereity and abandon. I actaully brought up the whole rock-breaking thing, btw. Broke a few in Maine -- great state. Wish the Hiram Maxim machinegun shoot hadn't been closed down though. Regards, Huntsman
    I can tell you that you make ME laugh frequently. BTW....I completely agree with your post on fatherhood. I have two girls (12 & 2) and a boy (5) that consume virtually every waking minute of my time. If I go to my grave being considered a good father....I will be well pleased. I know Hiram well....I've got a crazy Uncle who lives there. I always refer to it as the "Stephen King" town. I've driven through there dozens of times and have NEVER seen anyone on the street. It's a spooky place that Hiram,Maine.
     


  6. Huntsman

    Huntsman Senior member

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    Nah, I wasn't wondering, skaglore. Perhaps it was your phrase "traditional manliness" that set me off. It's something I've always been interested in, because I see the concept devolving and leading to a great deal of stupidity (I'm in college, so that's hardly a surprise). None of which implies that I don't enjoy horsepower, breaking large boulders, and other things of that ilk.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     


  7. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Nah, I wasn't wondering, skaglore. Perhaps it was your phrase "traditional manliness" that set me off. It's something I've always been interested in, because I see the concept devolving and leading to a great deal of stupidity (I'm in college, so that's hardly a surprise). None of which implies that I don't enjoy horsepower, breaking large boulders, and other things of that ilk.

    Regards,
    Huntsman


    No worries [​IMG] - I give little credibility to such societal constructs anyway because that is all that they are. Ephemeral and fluid constructs.
     


  8. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Senior member

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    Eloquent explanation Huntsman, I like it. [​IMG]
    P.s. if you were wondering, I don't have any sort of real trouble with myself; I just often find it hilarious how different I seem to be from the traditional Anglo-american norms of "manlyness" [​IMG] - although I would not mind some extra muscle mass and brawn, lol.


    Skalogre, I'm the same way. I have no problem with myself (and neither does my gf, thankfully) but others have had. I seldom watch sports (but have a weakness for Euro football and F1 racing), would rather go shopping than watch sports (except the world cup), know nothing about cars except where the gas goes and how to drive it, find that the idea of telling stories about the women I've been with to be the height of impropriety, most of my friends are women or gay men, and I love Broadway! To many men that means I'm gay. To a surprising number of women it means the same. I'm straight--I'm just not much of a "guy".


    bob
     


  9. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    Drinking beer and smoking cigarettes on your front porch on the first nice day of the year (75 degrees and sunny!!!), at 1:30 in the afternoon.
     


  10. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Skalogre, I'm the same way. I have no problem with myself (and neither does my gf, thankfully) but others have had. I seldom watch sports (but have a weakness for Euro football and F1 racing), would rather go shopping than watch sports (except the world cup), know nothing about cars except where the gas goes and how to drive it, find that the idea of telling stories about the women I've been with to be the height of impropriety, most of my friends are women or gay men, and I love Broadway! To many men that means I'm gay. To a surprising number of women it means the same. I'm straight--I'm just not much of a "guy".


    bob


    You have pretty much described me (at least until the Broadway bit - the only musical I have ever enjoyed has been Miike Takashi's "Happiness of the Katakuris" [​IMG] ).
    Oh, and I like WRC more than F1 but close enough [​IMG] .
     


  11. nightowl6261a

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    Drinking beer and smoking cigarettes on your front porch on the first nice day of the year (75 degrees and sunny!!!), at 1:30 in the afternoon.
    Don't froget peeing standing up![​IMG] Off the front porch when the beers really hit home.
     


  12. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Don't froget peeing standing up![​IMG] Off the front porch when the beers really hit home.

    That makes me want to have my own porch, lol.
     


  13. j

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    Drinking beer and smoking cigarettes on your front porch on the first nice day of the year (75 degrees and sunny!!!), at 1:30 in the afternoon.
    "Drunk before noon day".
     


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    "Drunk before noon day".

    Iffs i wouldnt havse slept in tiol 1:00 then it prolly would ahve been drunks before noon day..
     


  15. faustian bargain

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    thanksgiving, waking up at 6:30 with my brother to start the smoker for the turkey. it was cold so we also made a fire in the fire pit. we set up a tv on the back patio, and then we sat on the lawn chairs smoking cigars and drinking beer. that was manly relaxation.
     


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