Maker of this Paul Stuart Shoe

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  1. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    This shoe is currently on sale at Paul Stuart. Does anyone know who makes it or can at least comment on the quality?

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    cigarMan Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Grenson or Crockett & Jones to me. Their past few seasons were Grenson.
     
  3. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    If they are Grenson, are they built well? The sale price is tempting if they are comparable to a shoe at the non-sale price.
     
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    rebel222 Senior member

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    It's a fine shoe at the price. It's a killer bargain? No. Could you resell it on eBay for more? No. But it is a good deal.

    The quality is similar to any other shoe that retails for $600.
     
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  5. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    I don't want to ebay it, but I am looking at a suede shoe. If it was a bad deal, I might consider a cheaper model from another maker.
     
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    Ich_Dien Senior member

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    Looks awfully lot like C&J but we need to see the inside markings.
     
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    I think they're C&J benchgrades. Grenson doesn't do soles like that - at the $600 price, the Masterpieces usually have the channeled sole and the scripted "Made in England", similar to Edward Green.

    +1 on rebels comments. Although if you can wait, you might get a better deal if you wait to grab a pair of suede C&J Peals from BB the day after X-Mas. Usually $500 with 40% off. And I think you get another 15% off if you buy before noon.

    If you're still in the area, walk down the street to Brooks and do a price check. I think on 12/26 you can get peals for less than $300.
     
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    looks like cj to me
     
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    This is partially correct. Grenson does do open channel shoes for Paul Stuart. I know their double soles are not closed. I don't know if they have other models that are open. I think the shoes above are C&J, but I'm not sure without the internal writing.

    I think that most C&J for BB are on blobby lasts, so I usually avoid them. Except for a few select models, I've never been drawn to any C&J for Brooks Brothers shoes.

    To the OP's question: Regardless of whether they are Grenson or C&J, they are a fair price. Not great, but it will take some work and waiting to get a equivalent shoe for considerably less money. Also, the real question is how much you like the model and the fit of the shoe. If either of these two is missing, it doesn't matter what the price tag says.
     
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  10. msulinski

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    Rebel, thank you for clarifying.

    I'm pretty sure the Brooks flagship has more options than that thing you posted with the strange sole. I believe a suede captoe and suede wingtip are standard offerings - they're always there in the shop, they just might not have them on the website. They might be Alfred Sargent and not C&J though.
     
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    This is the Edgeware model by C&J. The price sticker also has a hint on the model name; 'EDGE'.
     
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    Bravo.
     
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    My Paul Stuart Grenson Masterpices were closed channelled FWIW.
     
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    ditto...
     

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