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Magna/summa cum laude on resume

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Connemara, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. Agnacious

    Agnacious Senior member

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    Wow 3.5 is cum laude? I'm pretty sure my school started above 3.7, summa was above 3.9. Don't think it matters a ton personally.


    It depends on the school. The more a school inflates the grades, or the ease of courses, the higher the GPAs have to be. There would be no sense in having an honors designation if 90% of the people received it.
     
  2. Piobaire

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    I've just screened 245 applications (professional government job). I don't care where they went to university or what degree they received. I just wanted to know if they read the job advertisement properly and were to able to respond in coherent sentences to its requirements in their cover letters and resumes. I've encountered lots of stupid people who managed to get themselves "good" degrees. That first impression fades quickly.

    Wow. 245 apps for a professional government job? Shows times are tough.
     
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    I've just screened 245 applications (professional government job). I don't care where they went to university or what degree they received. I just wanted to know if they read the job advertisement properly and were to able to respond in coherent sentences to its requirements in their cover letters and resumes. I've encountered lots of stupid people who managed to get themselves "good" degrees. That first impression fades quickly.

    If this is fed govt, then the application process is waaaay harder than anything I did at college.
     
  4. nate10184

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    It depends on the school. The more a school inflates the grades, or the ease of courses, the higher the GPAs have to be. There would be no sense in having an honors designation if 90% of the people received it.

    True. But I definitely wouldn't say the school I went to was easy, there were just a lot of people who worked their asses off. IIRC it was top 25%, top 10%, top 5% for cum, magna, summa.
     
  5. chronoaug

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    Is this something people generally do? I would imagine "cum laude" is typically left off as it is pretty common, right? Most schools I am familiar with grant cum laude at 3.5, magna at 3.7 and summa at 3.9. But I don't know.
    I wish. At my school it was 3.7 for cum laude, 3.7 + thesis for magna, and 3.8 with thesis that was also recommended for high honors by a body of teachers for summa. Only GPA is easy shit
     
  6. SField

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    It depends on the school. The more a school inflates the grades, or the ease of courses, the higher the GPAs have to be. There would be no sense in having an honors designation if 90% of the people received it.

    It has nothing to do with grade inflation, it has to do with standards. People bitch so much about grade inflation but they don't realize at the top institutions that most of the people there would be valedictorians at the pleb schools.
     
  7. SField

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    True. But I definitely wouldn't say the school I went to was easy, there were just a lot of people who worked their asses off. IIRC it was top 25%, top 10%, top 5% for cum, magna, summa.

    In undergrad they gave 1 summa (I'm pretty sure you're only supposed to give out 1), 2 magna and a whole lot of cum laude. And it's supposed to be like the epicenter of grade inflation. Yea, most of my colleagues had high averages, but everyone worked extremely hard to earn their high marks. They can't just give a whole lot of extremely high achieveing people bell curved grades which totally misrepresent their efforts. People who bitch about grade inflation usually went to shitty schools and are frustrated by people from great schools passing them by with that they perceive to be a falsely recognized C.V. At least at the places I went to, grade inflation was a myth. If it looked like everyone got great grades it was because they were some of the best colleges on the planet and the large class of minorities would rather die than go back home with anything less than As.
     
  8. NoVaguy

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    At my law school, I think it is top 40% for honors, top 10% for high honors, and top 3% for highest honors.

    At my university when I was there, I think it was 3.4, 3.6, and 3.8, respectively for cum, magna, and summa, and that applied to the entire school. Which kind of sucked at the time, and for when I applied to law school, because I was in the engineering school and we did not have as much "grade inflation" as the regular school or the business school. I was in the top 15% of the engineering school, but only made cum laude.
     
  9. SField

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    At my law school, I think it is top 40% for honors, top 10% for high honors, and top 3% for highest honors.

    At my university when I was there, I think it was 3.4, 3.6, and 3.8, respectively for cum, magna, and summa, and that applied to the entire school. Which kind of sucked at the time, and for when I applied to law school, because I was in the engineering school and we did not have as much "grade inflation" as the regular school or the business school. I was in the top 15% of the engineering school, but only made cum laude.


    3.8 for highest honors. Gee, sounds like you guys had grade inflation! I bet a 2.5 from some unknown mediocre institution (with Ivy profs, of course), is much more valuable than a 3.8 from your school.

    Darn that grade inflation.
     
  10. Agnacious

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    They can't just give a whole lot of extremely high achieveing people bell curved grades which totally misrepresent their efforts.

    University of Chicago fits to a 3.25 mean, 50% above, 50 % below, not matter your effort, you are graded compared to your peer group. You could have a 92 final grade and if the mean is 95 you get a B-. That's what top schools do.
     
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    I wouldn't sweat it Conne. Just tell them you're a proud Buckeye!
     
  12. nate10184

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    In undergrad they gave 1 summa (I'm pretty sure you're only supposed to give out 1), 2 magna and a whole lot of cum laude. And it's supposed to be like the epicenter of grade inflation. Yea, most of my colleagues had high averages, but everyone worked extremely hard to earn their high marks. They can't just give a whole lot of extremely high achieveing people bell curved grades which totally misrepresent their efforts. People who bitch about grade inflation usually went to shitty schools and are frustrated by people from great schools passing them by with that they perceive to be a falsely recognized C.V. At least at the places I went to, grade inflation was a myth. If it looked like everyone got great grades it was because they were some of the best colleges on the planet and the large class of minorities would rather die than go back home with anything less than As.

    I think this sums up my ugrad experience as well. I have friends who went to decent public schools where they cruised to the dean's list every semester with little effort. I won't call grade inflation a complete myth but I'll be damned if these guys could have come to my school and competed with the minorities you reference.
     
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    3.8 for highest honors. Gee, sounds like you guys had grade inflation! I bet a 2.5 from some unknown mediocre institution (with Ivy profs, of course), is much more valuable than a 3.8 from your school.

    Darn that grade inflation.


    ?!? My sarcasm meter is completely off.
     
  14. randallr

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    What's the point of listing any of those if you went to Ohio St.?

    That's like saying, o, I got the award for being the skinniest kid at obesity camp.

    Everyone at HYP has cum laude, they hand them out like condoms at a highschool health class, but at least they're worth something.


    this made me laugh. You always do that to me Sfield.
     
  15. Teger

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    why the fuck does connemara want to be a wasp. he is the most bizarre person on the forum. he's like 20 years old and acts like he's 40, dresses like he's 50 and bitches about women like his viagra perscription ran out. do you think there's some sort of mystique in a sexually repressed, emotionally abusive tradition of meanignless consumption in a race to the consumer top with your neighbors?

    what the fuck happened to you?
     
  16. randallr

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    He doesn't get anymore ass teger. He needs to compensate.
     
  17. Teger

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    stop aspiring to dress like mr rogers and start talking to girls AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
     
  18. Tarmac

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    he needs a crew. or a krew. he refuses to lower himself to hip-hop or hipster level and would never be accepted in the Gossip Girl level, thus he is trapped in middle hell.

    Conne just relax and lower yourself to hipster level.
     
  19. Connemara

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    he needs a crew. or a krew. he refuses to lower himself to hip-hop or hipster level and would never be accepted in the Gossip Girl level, thus he is trapped in middle hell. Conne just relax and lower yourself to hipster level.
    I'd rather give up showtunes than become a hipster.
     
  20. SField

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    I'd rather give up showtunes than become a hipster.

    Let your freak flag fly sister.
     

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