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MADE IN CHINA

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by garyjames, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. garyjames

    garyjames New Member

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    Does anybody know where i can find information on which country manufacturers a particular brands clothes please ?

    Reason for asking is that i'm sick to death of paying decent money for brands that are moving their production output to China where they're paying low rates but still charging high bucks to their customer base. prime example is that well known swedish brand ACNE that charge a lot of money for their clothes but are getting them made in China probably for peanuts.I've recently send one of their sweaters back to Mr Porter upon discovering its made in China.Now i find out that Brooks Brothers that quintessential american brand that prides itself on its history is also farming out its clothes to to China.
    Nothing against the Chinese but i generally find that clothes made in that country are ultimately crap.
     
  2. Pawz

    Pawz Senior member

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  3. garyjames

    garyjames New Member

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    lol,i'll give it a read but the crux of my question is can i find out where a shirt or jacket is made before i buy it.................on line of course ?
     
  4. Pawz

    Pawz Senior member

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    Ah! Well, I thought whatever site you're buying from would tell you (anyone), and I was right...

    J Brand
    Walker Straight-Leg Jeans/Champ
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    A relaxed, straight-leg fit in medium-washed indigo denim characterized by gentle fading and subtle whiskering at the points of wear.

    Five-pocket style
    Low rise
    Leather logo patch on back waist
    Inseam, about 36"
    Cotton
    Machine wash
    Made in USA


    But...


    Moncler
    Republique Jacket
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    This jacket marries cold-weather protection with the versatility of removable sleeves in sleek, double-layered quilted nylon. A jacket or a vest...you choose.

    Attached hood
    Zip front with snap storm flap
    Side zip pockets
    Down fill
    About 25" from shoulder to hem
    99% polyamide/1% polyeurethane back, polyamide lining
    Dry clean
    Imported


    Same site (Saks). I suppose when an item is made someplace 'good', they'll tell you. If it's Chinese, it'll read 'imported'. Of course, that's an assumption.

    *tries a different site*

    Gah! Couldn't find the same jacket on Bergdorf Goodman. ...But they give origins:


    Suede Vest
    It only takes one piece to transform an ensemble from blase to brilliant. Brunello Cucinelli presents such a topper with this quilted vest—constructed of supple suede in a warm, neutral hue for lasting sartorial splendor.

    Tan quilted water-repellant suede.
    Stand collar; snap front.
    Left chest welt pocket; front zip pockets.
    Green nylon lining.
    Made in Italy.


    ...Most of the time.

    hree-In-One Fur-Trimmed Flannel Anorak

    Derby melange (charcoal gray).
    Natural coyote (USA) trimmed hood; button/zip front.
    Long sleeves.
    Large button-flap pockets.
    Zips off to reveal long-sleeve quilted nylon jacket with zip pockets.
    Wool/nylon/other fibers.
    Imported.


    If it is described as 'Imported', I wouldn't trust it.
     
  5. MikeDT

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    The Thin Man Senior member

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    You can e-mail the site and ask them. Or you could do a search for the item and include the phrase "made in" and sometimes a site will show up. Those are the only ways I know.
     
  7. SirGrotius

    SirGrotius Senior member

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    The problem is many brands have some lines that are MIC, some that are MIR (Romania) and top lines that are MII or MIF. This applies to brands such as Burberry and RL. I usually just take the time to check the tag and if you see a cashmere sweater for $150 you can probably save by guessing where it's made.

    If you're really worried about country of origin, you'll have to focus on more exclusive designers/brands (e.g., Dior, John Lobb), those that make it a point to make their products in their home country (e.g., Ferragamo), and/or get it customized close to home. Otherwise, I always check.
     
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  8. y2knp

    y2knp Senior member

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    well, some of the clothes made in Italy but actually it's made in China, they just put the "made in Italy" label on after imported from China. or maybe the clothes are made by Chinese hands from a factory in US. Have you ever heard the story of prada?
     
  9. Zinse24

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    I'll recommend to actually look in to the actual brands and do more research abou the Item itself.
    All companies have different tiers of quality made in different parts of the world.
    Make sure that look for the specific collection and that will guide you to where it's been made.
    You can't go wrong with some Lobb or Green or Ferragamo which I usually go with. These brands are always in house brands which refuse to outsource the production to other parts of the workd.
     
  10. chet31

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    There is no definitive list that I am aware of. This is a list of made in the USA goods, but it's hardly complete.

    http://www.acontinuouslean.com/the-american-list/

    If shopping in person, you can check the tag of course. If on-line, many websites will tell you. If they don't, you can pretty much assume it's made in China - they'll usually make a point of saying if something is made in Italy, USA, England, etc.
     
  11. Philip

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    Oh I get it, the negative opinion on made in China isn't about poor labour and manufacturing standards, It's about the fact that they're Chinese!
     
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    Retailers are pretty iffy though, especially the bigger ones such as Barneys, NM and BG. Barneys will put imported even if it's denim made in Japan and NM / BG mess up the country of origin all the time. Just got a BoO oxford that was listed as imported but was actually USA made
     
  13. nakame

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    There are great items made in china, there are also greedy american business that chose try to make things the cheapest they can and charge as much as possible.

    Why are americans so brainwashed into thinking made in america means good quality... just look at american cars, a lot of american made stuff is crap, like anywhere it depends on who is making it and what quality of raw materials they are using.

    Who cares were it was made as long as the quality is good!

    This thread should be, where can I find great quality for low prices...
     
  14. JesseJB

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    Everything in my closet that was made in China has fallen apart, that's why.
     
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    Philip Senior member

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    There are times when I'd rather buy something manufactured in any third world country than by American apparel 'made in the U. S. of gay'
     
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    Lots of BB shirts made in Malaysia, I don't think it's better than made in China.

    who fucking cares your acne made in China? You return it because it's made in China, and that's not a rational decision after compare how it was manufactured.

    You are just being a label whore of Made in Italy, which they can also be junk.

    If someone pay a fucking low price of a Made in China item and expect it has excellent quality? Sorry you are just being greedy. I don't expect cheap made in Italy items has high quality. You get what you pay for, no matter where it was made. You are either pay for the brand, design, material, labor work, or just paying the premium: you get it earlier before others can get it. That's marketing.
     
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  17. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    everything will fall apart without appropriate care and maintenance.
     
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    pics or it didn't happen.

    can we move this to DT?
     
  19. lithdoc

    lithdoc Well-Known Member

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    I have same frustrations as the OP. While I understand that retailers are trying to save money by manufacturing for less, I find it offensive when BB put a $99 for $129 price on a MIC golf shirt, when it probably cost them <$5 to make that shirt. When you buy something Made in USA, at least you know that the workers that made it got a fair wage, while their Chinese counterpart's monthly wage is equal to American's two hour pay.

    Few years ago, almost all BB blazers were Made in USA... Now - vast majority are made in Thailand. Prices are roughly the same. You make your own conclusions.
     
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    ask any American earning minimum wage if they think it's "fair".
     

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