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Mad Men Season 3 Discussion

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Flambeur, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. highball

    highball Senior member

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    Peggy seducing that guy last night would have had some impact for both her character and the show if she hadn't already screwed Campbell on her very first day. Since we already know she's a "girl like that" last night's subplot was a waste of screen time. In fact, the show went of the tracks on the very first episode with that out of character move by Peggy. Draper's back story doesn't help as it is as dull as shit and distracting as hell.

    Agree. I really enjoy the show and most of the office scenes are great, but I can't help but feel that the character's back stories could have been better thought out.

    Draper looked quite good in the scene near the end at the school maypole thing. Nice subtle windowpane, and those were great sunglasses.

    Indeed. Anyone able to ID those shades?
     
  2. cadillac37

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    Agree. I really enjoy the show and most of the office scenes are great, but I can't help but feel that the character's back stories could have been better thought out.



    Indeed. Anyone able to ID those shades?


    Ray-Ban Caravan perhaps? I should pull it up on On Demand to check though...
     
  3. thekunk07

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    was he stroking the grass as a means of connecting with her or thinking of an idea for the pepsi campaign?
     
  4. HORNS

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    was he stroking the grass as a means of connecting with her or thinking of an idea for the pepsi campaign?

    I think he was all hornied-out.
     
  5. Vince Lombardi's Ghost

    Vince Lombardi's Ghost Well-Known Member

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    Agree. I really enjoy the show and most of the office scenes are great, but I can't help but feel that the character's back stories could have been better thought out.



    Indeed. Anyone able to ID those shades?


    I'm pretty sure those were military issue aviator sunglasses aka flight goggle 58. They had the classic bayonet temples. I think this fits with his former military persona.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.randolphusastore.com/aviator.html
     
  6. embowafa

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    I'm pretty sure those were military issue aviator sunglasses aka flight goggle 58. They had the classic bayonet temples. I think this fits with his former military persona.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.randolphusastore.com/aviator.html


    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I've been looking for these!!!
     
  7. cadillac37

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    I'm pretty sure those were military issue aviator sunglasses aka flight goggle 58. They had the classic bayonet temples. I think this fits with his former military persona.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.randolphusastore.com/aviator.html


    Good call.
     
  8. FiveFiveFive

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    I think she's figuring out what sex appeal is all about. But it was funny - a very candid moment.

    I don't think it was intended to be a humorous scene. Considering the series is about people looking to fit in -- and ultimately failing to do so -- that scene pretty much summed up Peggy's predicament. She'd attempted to change Sterling/Cooper's approach toward advertising to women, but was cruelly shut down by the likes of Harry, Ken, and, most important, Don ("you're not an artist, you're a problem solver").

    Singing "Bye, Bye Birdie" (Bird-hee?) -- an ad idea she'd be adamantly against -- in the mirror was really her conceding defeat.
     
  9. thekunk07

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    but this is absolutely true, man or woman. i was a copywriter and that's what it's about

    I don't think it was intended to be a humorous scene. Considering the series is about people looking to fit in -- and ultimately failing to do so -- that scene pretty much summed up Peggy's predicament. She'd attempted to change Sterling/Cooper's approach toward advertising to women, but was cruelly shut down by the likes of Harry, Ken, and, most important, Don ("you're not an artist, you're a problem solver").

    Singing "Bye, Bye Birdie" (Bird-hee?) -- an ad idea she'd be adamantly against -- in the mirror was really her conceding defeat.
     
  10. FiveFiveFive

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    but this is absolutely true, man or woman. i was a copywriter and that's what it's about

    Kinsey had the same problem, letting his personal beliefs about Penn Station get in the way of business. Mad Men's always showing how different characters handle similar problems.
     
  11. King Francis

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    I liked how he talked to his brother in law
    Yeah, it was definitely fun to watch him squash Betty's mealy-mouthed brother. From a character standpoint, I always find Don's displays of ethics fascinating. He has a very firm sense of honor and decorum (remember him taking the other man's hat off in the elevator?), and yet he has made profound moral lapses. Both elements are plausibly written and acted, so that although he combines in his person seemingly irreconcilable attributes we must accept them as belonging to one and the same man.
     
  12. Bradford

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    I'd say Peggy's singing, combined with her conversation with Joan and picking up the guy later, all play into the split view of how she sees herself. She wants to be a tough career woman but she also wants the guys to see her as sexy. She's torn between the two and resentful that they are all lusting after Ann-Margaret in the movie and women like Joan in real life.

    As for Don, I loved the way he handled his brother-in-law and I really thought his look during the May Day scene was a combination of lust and also a thought about how the Patio ad should look. Wasn't there a soft-drink ad from that era that had a scene much like that one.

    And of course, the fact that Don is the only one who can see that Madison Square Garden would be a great account while the Brits can't see past short-term profits...
     
  13. Lone Wolf

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    was he stroking the grass as a means of connecting with her or thinking of an idea for the pepsi campaign?

    I think both. Plus the teacher's aesthetic and carefree ways echoed Ann Margaret in the Bye Bye Birdy clip. More than that, it echoed Don's point to the Madison Square Garden guy about welcoming change with a dance of joy. Don seemed to be watching her bare feet on the grass, so when he set down his cup and touched the grass I thought he was trying to be connected, and being a good ad man he looks for inspiration wherever he can find it (recall in the series premiere when he was asking a waiter or elevator operator, I forget which, why he smoked the brand he did when he was working on a cigarette campaign).
     
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    it echoed Don's point to the Madison Square Garden guy about welcoming change with a dance of joy.

    Bingo.
     
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    anyone know of a good stream for episode 2?
     
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    Indeed. Anyone able to ID those shades?

    American Optical which is pretty much the same as RE except no logo on the lens.
     
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    Don alpha male'd the senile father-in-law situation big time. Looks like he's already regretting it, however.


    I dont think Don cares about the father at all. He just wants Betty to be happy. He cant reason with her because he pregnant and emotional, so he's just pulling strings behind her back. My only guess is that if he forces the father into his house, Betty will get tired of him soon enough, then have him moved into a home; a decision she will be happy about after she is the one calling that shot. I just cant imagine Don wanting that old man to live with them. We will see.
     
  19. Lone Wolf

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    I dont think Don cares about the father at all. He just wants Betty to be happy. He cant reason with her because he pregnant and emotional, so he's just pulling strings behind her back. My only guess is that if he forces the father into his house, Betty will get tired of him soon enough, then have him moved into a home; a decision she will be happy about after she is the one calling that shot. I just cant imagine Don wanting that old man to live with them. We will see.

    Agreed. I don't think he wants the old man around at all (especially when he's pouring Don's good booze down the sink). I did like the way Don ran over Betty's brother, however, and his decision is going to force her to face reality.

    As for Betty, she seems to be moving from being emotionally distant towards their kids to outright resenting them. Between her state of mind and her constant smoking and drinking, things don't look good for the unborn kid.
     
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    BTW is it clear as to whether the baby that Betty is carrying is Don's? Is there even the slightest possibility that it could be the guy Betty hooked up with while in Manhattan?
     

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