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[Mad] food scientist at work

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Scientist at Work: Nathan Myhrvold After Microsoft, Bringing a High-Tech Eye to Professional Kitchens By KENNETH CHANG BELLEVUE, Wash. — Inside a nondescript warehouse on a nondescript street of this Seattle suburb is a research laboratory that looks like it came out of a James Bond movie — had Q the gadget master been a gastronome. Here Nathan Myhrvold, a former chief technology officer at Microsoft, and his company, Intellectual Ventures, pursue an eclectic array of speculative and potentially world-changing ideas — inventing a new battery, taming hurricanes, defeating disease. And here, along with the laser designed to shoot mosquitoes out of the air (a high-speed camera counts the rate of wing-flapping to ensure that innocent insects are not vaporized), is the best-equipped restaurant kitchen anywhere that never serves any customers. Dr. Myhrvold exuded a Willy Wonka enthusiasm as he talked of the foods that came out of his industrial food dehydrator. “Raw lobster tail, freeze dried, is amazing,” he said. At another machine, rose petals spun inside a glass globe. “This is basically a still,” he said. “You could crank the temperature up and distill alcohol. What we’re trying to do here is get an essence of rose petals.” The yield would be a few fragrant tablespoons of liquid. Around the corner, he pointed to two machines side by side. “Here’s our ice cream machine, and here’s our ultrasonic welder,” he said. Had he used the welder as a cooking appliance? “Not yet,” he said, earnestly,” but we’re going to try it out.” After all, an autoclave designed to sterilize lab equipment has proven culinarily productive — “It’s basically the pressure cooker from hell,” Dr. Myhrvold said — as has a 100-ton hydraulic press, for beef jerky. All of this high-tech kitchen tinkering feeds another of Dr. Myhrvold’s projects: a cookbook. The book, still untitled, intends to be the authoritative reference for chefs wishing to employ so-called molecular gastronomy — adapting food industry technologies to restaurant cooking. Dr. Myhrvold, who once presided over Microsoft Windows, did not undertake this endeavor as a lonely intellectual pursuit. He hired 15 people, including 5 professional chefs, a photographer, an art director and writers and editors, to create it. They included Christopher Young, a biochemistry-graduate-student-turned-chef who headed the research kitchen at the Fat Duck near London, one of the most innovative restaurants in the world. Dr. Myhrvold has long pursued a Renaissance man portfolio of interests. While still at Microsoft, he showed that sauropod dinosaurs might have been able to accelerate the tips of their tails to supersonic speeds, like cracking a whip. More recently, he has been proselytizing among paleontologists, urging them to hunt for fossilized dinosaur vomit. Owls and some other birds of prey regurgitate the bones of what they eat, and Dr. Myhrvold surmises that dinosaurs, as the ancestors of birds, might have done the same thing. Every month or so, the cookbook team gathers in a conference room to review their progress. Dr. Myhrvold scans each page, points out glitches and sketches how he wants a chart to look. “It’s basically like a software project,” Dr. Myhrvold said. “It’s very much like a review we would do at Microsoft.” The project has grown in size and scope. Originally planned as a 300-page discussion of sous vide, an increasingly popular restaurant technique of cooking food in vacuum-sealed bags in warm water baths, the book has swelled to 1,500 pages that will also cover microbiology, food safety, the physics of heat transfer on the stove and in the oven, formulas for turning fruit and vegetable juices into gels, and more. “And they’re big pages,” Dr. Myhrvold said. Because he is self-publishing the book, Dr. Myhrvold does not have to convince a publisher or anyone else that such a huge book aimed primarily at a narrow of audience of restaurant chefs makes economic sense. He said the book would be out in a year, although he admitted that was also what he said a year ago. “There’s not a chef on Earth who won’t learn something from this,” Dr. Myhrvold said. At least some chefs are taking interest. “I think there are parts of it that are definitely new to me,” said Wylie Dufresne, the chef and owner of WD-50 in Manhattan, who visited the kitchen laboratory. “It’s a cookbook that’s going to be in its own category.” In September, Dr. Myhrvold, Mr. Young and two of the other chefs gave a presentation at the StarChefs.com International Chefs Congress, an annual Manhattan trade show for restaurant professionals. They demonstrated how to encrust a pork loin within what was essentially a large crispy pork rind, how to make stewed prunes look like coal and how to make a “constructed cream” — breaking apart a fat and a liquid into tiny droplets and mixing them together into something that had the fluidity of heavy cream. “For example, why not make a pistachio cream where, instead of milk fat, we use pistachio oil?” Mr. Young said. “If you can get the droplets small enough, if you can coat them in proteins, you can create a dairy-free pistachio gelato that’s 100 percent pistachio oil.” They also demonstrated cryoseared duck breast, a technique that calls for implements not typically found in a kitchen: a small satchel of loose metal, dry ice, dog hair brush. “We do have to perforate it to get the fat out,” Mr. Young said. “The easiest way is a stainless steel dog hair brush. It will poke a lot of little holes that aren’t going to show up.” “For God’s sake,” Dr. Myhrvold interjected, “buy a new one for this.” The duck breast was placed skin down on the dry ice before being seared, weighed down by the satchel. The cold froze not only the skin, but also a thin layer of the meat next to the skin, which acted as a cold barrier to prevent overcooking. “Until that melts, heat won’t go above it,” Mr. Young said. The result was a crispy skin while the meat remained tender and juicy. The book presents some concepts like wet bulb temperature that will be new to cooks of all skill levels. The usual temperature set in an oven is scientifically known as the dry bulb temperature. But for cooking, the wet bulb temperature, which is essentially a measure of the evaporation rate of water and depends on the humidity, is often more important. “Nathan would make the point that food is water with a bunch of impurities in it,” Mr. Young said. Dr. Myhrvold said the wet bulb and dry bulb temperatures could sometimes differ by 30 degrees, which might be the difference between a soufflÃ
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that rises and one that collapses. (One advantage of sous vide is that because the food is immersed in water, the wet and dry bulb temperatures are the same.) In another discovery of culinary heat transfer physics, Dr. Myhrvold said the bulbous shape and black color of Weber grills were wrong. To achieve an even cooking temperature across the cooking grate, the inside of the grill should be vertical and shiny to reflect the heat. That can be fixed by adding an aluminum insert to the grill. “So we have directions for that,” Dr. Myhrvold said. The conclusions have often been backed up by careful scientific exploration. For example, confit, the French technique of cooking slowly in fat, is supposed to impart a unique taste and texture as the fat penetrates the meat. But Dr. Myhrvold said: “There’s no way it could penetrate. The molecules are too big.” He said double-blind taste tests proved that the same tasty results could be achieved by steaming and then rubbing some of the fat on the outside.
 

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Count another one in. This sounds incredible. It could be the next step towards getting food just the way you want it.
 

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Originally Posted by kwilkinson
This book actually sounds incredible. I will be buying it.

Do you really want to cook this kind of food?

"It's basically like a software project," Dr. Myhrvold said. "It's very much like a review we would do at Microsoft."
Where's the art in all this?
 

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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
Do you really want to cook this kind of food?



Where's the art in all this?


Obviously I wouldn't want all my food to be made like this, but think of the uses. A 100% pistachio oil gelato. The texture of gelato, but made using only pistachio product. The taste would be so incredibly intense.

People said the same thing about sous-vide cooking when Keller put out his book, even though it's been used commercially for God knows how long. But who's going to complain about a perfectly tender 36 hour braised pork belly, or a custard-smooth squab breast? It has its place in cooking, and if it can be used to elevate a dish or a dinner, then why not use it?
 

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Originally Posted by kwilkinson
It has its place in cooking, and if it can be used to elevate a dish or a dinner, then why not use it?
I'm not experienced in gastronomy in any kind of way, but it seems a bit all too "automated" to me. I know how something is supposed to taste, base on what I know and have experienced. If you were to throw at me something strange, like a dish typically found at elBulli, it would feel a bit "off" to me. (That's not to say I wouldn't appreciate a night pigging out at the aforementioned molecular gastronomy epicenter.)
 

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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
I'm not experienced in gastronomy in any kind of way, but it seems a bit all too "automated" to me. I know how something is supposed to taste, base on what I know and have experienced. If you were to throw at me something strange, like a dish typically found at elBulli, it would feel a bit "off" to me. (That's not to say I wouldn't spend a night pigging out at the aforementioned molecular gastronomy epicenter.)

Well if you would gladly spend a night pigging out at places like elBulli (and who in their right mind wouldn't), then you already "get it." Sometimes the final product is reason enough in and of itself.

That said, some of it is too automated. There are times that I've experienced this kind of concept go wrong. Sometimes you can take your perfectly sous-vide piece of protein that is traditionally braised, and it just doesn't taste the same as it would be if it were braised in the sauce. The pork cheek/lamb shank/pork butt/whatever is indeed perfectly cooked-- fork tender, juicy, succulent, and everything you would want in it. But it didn't spend the time in the braising liquid developing that marriage of flavor, so overall the dish isn't as good as it could be, even with the perfect piece of protein.

Like with everything else, culinarily or just in general, it works sometimes and other times it doesn't work. We should cherish and support it when it does work. I already see some of the things in this cook working, like the gelato, but I'm not behind all of it, like dog-hair-brushing and liquid nitroing my duck breast.
 

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What's the thingy in star trek called that makes food? If he invents that, i'll be impressed. Otherwise I don't knwo what i'd do with a 100 ton machine for making beef jerky.
 

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I am very excited to read this - any idea when it'll come out?
 

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I'm interested in the confit bit. Dr. Myrvhold asserts that the fat penetration into the molecule is impossible, but refutes the entire process of confit based on this one preconstructed argument. It seems obvious that fat molecules can penetrate the meat fibers and that fats render different flavors to the meat itself.

Confit isn't as easily reduced to a slathering of oil onto the exterior of meat. The article presents it as some kind of French didactic pretension and quickly tosses the plausibility of the method aside with the veracity of a double blind taste test (presumably with god as the arbiter).

Water and fat are different in many regards beyond osmosis. I think this scientific imposition into the world of food is really at the heart of what DarkNWorn feels. But Kwilk said it best: if it can be used to elevate a dish or a dinner, then why not use it? The problem -- as was done here it seems -- is calculating the results before observing them -- which is in itself detrimental to both cooking and science.
 

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he's a VERY interesting guy. He posted for years under the name Nathanm on eGullet. I believe his thread on sous-vide is still up, incredible stuff (if you like that kind of thing). my friend paula wolfert was carrying on an e-mail exchange with him (using a foodsaver to make confit) and her husband said "Do you have any idea who he is?" she thought he was just another rabid foodie.
 

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I'm surprised he hasn't collaborated with the Ferran Adrià, Heston Blumenthal, Andoni Aduriz or any other big name in "molecular gastronomy".
 

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wylie dufresne's food still isn't any good.
 

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Originally Posted by spudnik99
I'm surprised he hasn't collaborated with the Ferran Adrià , Heston Blumenthal, Andoni Aduriz or any other big name in "molecular gastronomy".

They all probably thought he's nuts.
 

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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
They all probably thought he's nuts.

one thing i'll guarantee you: anyone walks into a chef's office and says "Hi, I invented Microsoft Word and I'd like to talk to you about cooking," they may think he's nuts, but they're going to clear their calendar.
 

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