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Low buttoning points

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Agatha Crusty, Sep 21, 2012.

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  1. Agatha Crusty

    Agatha Crusty Senior member

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    I'll jump straight in with this. A lot of the two button RTW jackets out there button quite high. With the top button done up it is often a good 2 or even 2 1/2 inches above the natural waist. I don't mind this at all and it's not a criticism of it, but I wondered if anyone has noticed any trend changes in the lowering of buttoning points, somewhat like how wider lapels have resurfaced after the period of ever-narrowing lapels a la Mad Men?

    The reason I ask is that I have two suits which, although made some time ago, are rather fine pieces, and which I'd like to wear. One is a marl grey wool flannel and the other a light brown small houndstooth check.The cut is moderate and classic: lapels not too narrow or wide, regular leg width on the trousers etc. The only sign that they are not entirely contemporary is the buttoning point which is roughly at the natural waist. It might be that I've become too accustomed to the contemporary two-button look and it does seem to be affecting my judgement.

    I'm sorry that I don't don't have any photos because I'm away from home for a while.
     
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  2. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    You can wear whatever you want, but without pictures, I don't know what you're expecting from this.
     


  3. Agatha Crusty

    Agatha Crusty Senior member

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    Perhaps I'm expecting a little more than a quoted post to fill a reply!

    It's a bit disingenuous to say 'you can wear what you want'. If I was wearing a four button jacket with no vents and the sleeves rolled up it would be my choice, but people might have a few opinions on its stylistic merits, or lack thereof!

    The question is: are low buttoning points, which disappeared somewhat after the 1980s, anywhere on the style map?
     
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  4. Agatha Crusty

    Agatha Crusty Senior member

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    Utterly pathetic response rate. Now everyone can go back to comparing pictures of shiny shoes...
     


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    :facepalm: The forum doesn't exist to answer your questions. If you would run a search, you'd see people here prefer lower button stances.
     
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  6. Agatha Crusty

    Agatha Crusty Senior member

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    How ludicrous. So what does such a forum exist for? Or is that just my questions?

    Considering your avatar methinks it was the shiny shoe gibe that probably upset you most.
     


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    Can't imagine why this hasn't generated more discussion in the 1 day and 2 hours you had it up before complaining since it is a very interesting question.

    How high is the gorge? That's what will make it seem dated more than the buttoning point.
     


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    Nicola Senior member

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    Because it's a strange question?

    How many companies these days are really making high button point two button jackets? I wonder if the OP is confusing the low rise pants and how they make the button point look higher then it is?
     


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    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    The buttoning point and gorge should be where they flatter you most. It's not a matter of fashion, though high buttoning points have been all the rage for the few past years... they rarely look good on anyone, though. Specially mixed with low rise trousers...
     
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    +10000000
     


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    ...and I expect pictures when someone throws around words like "lower" and "higher." Again, you can wear whatever you want, but no pics = limited advice.
    Hmmmm. I wonder why.

    +1 more reply!
     


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    Tom Ford who is one of the major designers pushing for the wider lapels also has a relatively low buttoning point.
     


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