Loro Piano & J. Crew

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  1. JuniorJetSet

    JuniorJetSet Well-Known Member

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    I was watching the Today Show this morning and a commentator mentioned that J. Crew cashmere is made with the same material as Loro Piana. Just something I thought I'd pass on.
    I own a J. Crew cashmere sweater, but haven't worn it yet. If the quality of the material is the same, it might be worth the savings $$$$
     


  2. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    Umm, so J. Crew is made from LP cashmere? I doubt this, and if it was, it would have a LP tag on(in) it...

    maybe they meant it was made from the same type of material (cashmere)
     


  3. HitMan009

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    This is the truth. Â Last year the cashmere sweaters at J.Crew was in fact Loro Piana cashmere. Â It was one of their bright points in an otherwise declining market share company. Â This season's apparel is the first season developed by the guy that was fired from the Gap a few years back. Â This is from New York Magazine. http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro....x2.html Basically, J.Crew is positioning itself as a go between Polo Ralph Lauren at top and Gap at the low end. Â Those who want the style and quality of Polo at the price point that is less then Polo but more then Gap.
     


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    Hmm, I wonder if they are the same quality LP fabric, I'll stop by their store today and take a look.
     


  5. BjornH

    BjornH Senior member

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    Interesting, but not totally surprising. I'm always impressed by the quality of J.Crew things I own. They are not very tastefull but the shirts and sweaters are much softer than BR. GAP, produces junk IMHO and is comparable to H&M or Zara in quality but still trailing behind.

    B
     


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    Huh, most J. Crew items have been disappointments. Yes, they do not fall apart, but the colors tend to fade after a few washes...compared to even the cheapest GAP item which keeps its color wash after wash.

    Jon.
     


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    I think this season's clothes quality wise will be much different from the previous years. Â Although not all of us are into preppy styles, if their basics are of good quality, I think giving them a look is worth it. Â J.Crew has always been generous when their stuff goes on sale, so let's see if that trend stays. Â I must say some of their ties don't look half bad even though most of them have the stripes going the wrong way... Â [​IMG] PS.... What is up with this cashmere craze? Â Personally, I like the look of merino wool more then cashmere but alas, I believe the other sex loves the feel of cashmere. Â Who am I to argue?
     


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    chorse123 Senior member

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    I have to side with Bjorn here. I've been impressed with most of the stuff I have from JCrew. They are also one of the best mass market clothing companies for sales. Their website always has one going, even early in each season.
     


  9. Phil

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    I recently read an interesting article in which it said Jcrew is going out of its way to both make fewer items and increasing the quality of the manufacturing of those items. They want to raise the level of quality, and prices im sure, but are willing to do so because they feel this is where the market is going. Not the best stuff in the world, but i really do love that place. Great khakis (and in fact they have held up better than any Bills khakis ive owned), and even better deals at sale time.
     


  10. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Sorry, but the very mention of J Crew makes my teeth grate. It's a physiological reaction. I've seen their sweaters and cashmere blazers, and though not my favorite (predictable colors and cuts,) the quality is definitely above that of their mass market competitors - Banana Republic, FCUK (whose quality sucks as a rule,) Club Monaco, etc...

    But I just really hate mass marketers, with their watering down of designer pieces and homogenization of all things stylish. I'll go into Urban Outfitters to look for jeans (they carry a surprising number of brands) but even that makes me want to beat myself over the head.
     


  11. Mike C.

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    That's absurd, it's not even possible for them to be made out of the same quality (given the prices of each). Anyone who tells you so has half a brain.

    I second LAGuys thoughts on mass marketers like J.Crew and BR.
     


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    I agree with the whole concept of mass marketers but I don't see a problem in going to J.Crew to buy basics.  If the quality is there, why not consider them an option?  For the more stylish pieces, we can always go elsewhere.  It would be impossible in my opinion for mass marketers to create truly stylish pieces because their whole business model is to appeal to the masses.  So dumbing down/watering down is part of the whole business model.  I don't think the regular guy on the street would be capable of wearing more stylish pieces not because he can't or can't afford it but more like he wouldn't be able to pull off the look.  Give two guys with the same build/height/color etc. the same clothes only difference being one has a more stylish sense, the look would totally be different.  Maybe tucking something in a certain way, a tug here, a tug there and the look can become from drab to fab.  It is true that better brands have a better cut per se but someone that understand style can learn to work things a certain way to achieve that certain look, whether it be clean cut, urban, trucker, grudge, it doesn't matter.  One more thing I might throw in, since the quality is better, a trusty tailor can always turn it from ordinary to extraordinary.
     


  13. AlanC

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    There was a post either here or at Ask Andy last year about JCrew using LP cashmere (I'll try to search it out later). That it was mentioned again on The Today show would seem to make it more than urban myth since I doubt they ready the boards. I, however, am no cashmere expert. But I do tend to like JCrew pretty well.
     


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    I wouldn't be surprised if LP has different grades of cashmere similar to their wool fabrics. I'm sure the better quality yarns are spun into their eponymous labeled knitwear and maybe the lower-end stuff is sold off to mass marketers like JCrew to boost their margins. For the prices Jcrew is commanding, I doubt the quality is great, but no worse than BR or other mall store brands.

    FWIW, I still kick around in a few JCrew staples from my college years. Actually, I just received my new JCrew cords that I won off Ebay and had delivered for $7.50 (about the same as two Starbucks Tall Peppermint Mochas).
     


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    They probably taste better and are healthier for you too.

    IMMSMC, I possess a J. Crew cashmere turtleneck sweater from my days at university (Hattori Nutrition College). I have to say, while I've never worn it very hard, and while the neck does tend to dislodge little cashmere blobs when I take it off, it is in fantastic shape and is still very soft. I don't think it's pilled any more than a N. Peal sweater that cost nearly three times as much and which I've had a third as long.
     


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