Joe Schmoe
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I have nothing against China or the Chinese. The Chinese folks that I know personally are good people. While I earnestly wish that the PRC was a democracy, the fact is that the one-party state in power there has made remarkable progress over the past 30 years and has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of grinding poverty. It's not fair to compare the leadership to Stalin or Pol Pot, it's just not. Tiananmen Square was horrifying -- and it was 33 years ago, and the people who were in charge back then are mostly dead. It's stupid to hold grudges over historical events.
The claims of human rights abuses against those of the Muslim faith seem... uninformed. I don't speak Chinese and have no idea what is going on in the far western reaches of China... and most of the Americans and Europeans who get really upset about this stuff don't speak a word of Chinese, have never met anyone of the Muslim faith from China, and merely spent 5-10 minutes reading a web page or watching a YouTube video on the subject. But this information seems to fulfill a psychological need for a GREAT ENEMY, so they get very emotional about a subject that they actually know very little about. Plus -- and I'm going to be indelicate here -- Muslim radicals often cause a lot of problems in other countries, and if the Chinese are responding to that problem a little too forcibly... at least they aren't plagued with suicide bombers and other forms of terrorism.
That said, I agree with the OP and try to buy MIUSA products whenever possible. Why? Because I like to support American workers. I hope the Chinese continue to prosper and am happy to do business with them -- but I have an obligation to support my fellow countrymen.
Sometimes older people are rubbed the wrong way by this, some people from the Boomer generation have a libertarian streak and see nationalism as sort of outdated and weak. And there was a time when economic protectionism in the US went too far, but... when you see what has happened to the US industrial base, it's heartbreaking. Offshoring, outsourcing, globalization -- these things have caused a lot of people to lose their jobs and there's a lot less economic security today than there was 30 years ago. So I like to step up and buy American whenever I can. Nothing wrong with that.
The claims of human rights abuses against those of the Muslim faith seem... uninformed. I don't speak Chinese and have no idea what is going on in the far western reaches of China... and most of the Americans and Europeans who get really upset about this stuff don't speak a word of Chinese, have never met anyone of the Muslim faith from China, and merely spent 5-10 minutes reading a web page or watching a YouTube video on the subject. But this information seems to fulfill a psychological need for a GREAT ENEMY, so they get very emotional about a subject that they actually know very little about. Plus -- and I'm going to be indelicate here -- Muslim radicals often cause a lot of problems in other countries, and if the Chinese are responding to that problem a little too forcibly... at least they aren't plagued with suicide bombers and other forms of terrorism.
That said, I agree with the OP and try to buy MIUSA products whenever possible. Why? Because I like to support American workers. I hope the Chinese continue to prosper and am happy to do business with them -- but I have an obligation to support my fellow countrymen.
Sometimes older people are rubbed the wrong way by this, some people from the Boomer generation have a libertarian streak and see nationalism as sort of outdated and weak. And there was a time when economic protectionism in the US went too far, but... when you see what has happened to the US industrial base, it's heartbreaking. Offshoring, outsourcing, globalization -- these things have caused a lot of people to lose their jobs and there's a lot less economic security today than there was 30 years ago. So I like to step up and buy American whenever I can. Nothing wrong with that.