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Looking for a dinner jacket...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by HopefulNihilist, Jan 9, 2012.

  1. HopefulNihilist

    HopefulNihilist Active Member

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    Allow me to be redundant - I'm looking for a dinner jacket. So far, the only quasi respectable brand I've seen that offers one, at least in my size (44R), is Brooks Brothers. Albeit, I'm reluctant to purchase it, as I find it to be a bit overpriced in relation to its construction. I'd also like a lower button stance and higher arm-holes; I'm going for a bit more of a modern look. Not too modern, however, as that doesn't seem apropos for a DJ.

    Also - amidst my search, I spotted this photo of Aziz Ansari:

    [​IMG]

    Initially, I LOVED this jacket. Albeit, I have a few questions, as I am, admittedly, horribly ignorant of more formal wear [​IMG]:

    • Should a dinner jacket have pocket flaps, or is that considered a fashion faux pas? I've read differing opinions, as ever, but I'd like to know what the consensus is.
    • Are the black accents on the jacket tacky/sacrilege? As I said, I'm not overly knowledgeable on formalwear. I rather liked them, to be honest; I thought they picked up on the black bow-tie and pants rather well and alleviated some of the monotony I've seen with some DJs.

    I have no problem buying used. So - any recommendations on where to get one?


    Thanks! [​IMG]
     
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  2. guymac12

    guymac12 Senior member

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    I believe the flap pockets are customary for dinner jackets. I'm not too keen on wearing white though.
     
  3. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    This is completely wrong. A dinner jacket should have besom pockets, and should never have flaps.
     
  4. HopefulNihilist

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    Thanks! Any chance a competent tailor could remove them, in the case I find a DJ that has flaps but is otherwise, well, lovely?
     
  5. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    Yes, it's possible if you have a competent tailor.
     
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    Pocket flaps shouldn't be too difficult to convert to jetted. I've found, as well, that on many dinner jackets with flapped pockets, the flaps neatly tuck into the pocket out of sight. Instant jetted pocket.
     
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    They are called white, but just about every "white" dinner jacket I've seen is some off-white shade of cream. Even Aziz's jacket is, I believe, off-white.

    guymac, I understand that in London, white dinner jackets are something of a rarity, as the climate does not allow for it. Is it true that they are seldom worn/seen?
     
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    Out of curiosity, what would you be wearing this for?
     
  9. HopefulNihilist

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  10. HopefulNihilist

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    Nothing current, as the climate isn't suited (pun absolutely intended) for it, but I normally have a lot of bigwig soirees and fancy parties during the spring/summer months. I normally just wear a tux, but I want to switch it up a bit.

    So, do any of you have an opinion on Aziz's jacket? The more I look at it, the more I like it, but he's not exactly the Cary Grant of my generation; I can't tell if it'd be considering tacky. Risque would be fine, but tacky I cannot tolerate. Thanks! [​IMG]
     
  11. bourbonbasted

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    Please do remember that when you are invited to a formal party (and not a host) you cannot/should not get away with a lot. Reading between the lines it sounds like these are rather large parties that you are invited to. I wouldn't wear a DJ unless I was throwing the party or was with a small group of close friends. Just my $0.02.
     
  12. HopefulNihilist

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    Oh no no no, my apologies; I should have been more specific - these are usually amongst friends and I'm usually co-host. Good point.
     
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    You seem them often enough at black tie does in the summer, particularly at events like Glyndebourne that are partly outside. They are in a minority, but not by so much that people would comment if you were to wear one. Of course English weather being what it is there is no guarantee you won't end up getting rained on in your summery white DJ.

    Jacket facings/buttons should be white as well. Shawl lapels look better on a white DJ than peak in my view, but either is acceptable. See the blacktieguide:

    http://www.blacktieguide.com/Classic/Warm_Weather.htm
     
  14. HopefulNihilist

    HopefulNihilist Active Member

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    Any idea where I can get one of these?
     
  15. HopefulNihilist

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    C'mon, guys. This is the closest thing I've found to what I want. Save me... from this.
     
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    I'm intrigued by this, and would be curious to hear more about how you go about hosting a private party where the dress code is black tie. What happens during these parties? What's the premise? How many people are involved? Where does it take place?
     

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