London and RTW

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mike Hayden, Dec 4, 2004.

  1. Mike Hayden

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    Thanks again for the continued input, I'll probably ask for any specific sale information the week before I go. While doing all the shopping, one needs nourishment, what are opinions on inexpensive food in London. Must be easy to get to. Cheap dinner place? Favorite coffee shop? Favorite fish and chips place? Favorite inexpensive restaurant around the west end for dinner before a show?

    Thanks again for your wonderful answers. The world really is a small place and I am grateful to have all these friends from everywhere at this site.
     


  2. ViroBono

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    In the matter of food, the unwary tourist must tread carefully. There are any number of very mediocre places which will take your money and leave you with a poor impression of London. You can spot them by the crowds of large, baseball-hatted Americans and camera-toting Japanese. Expect to pay a lot more for food in London than you do in the US. Don't expect US btrands to be the same as they are in the US. London is easy to get around using the Underground system - buy a daily TravelCard and a pocket A-Z Guide (indispensable map book). My recommendations (food and ambience are very personal things, so I expect others to disagree with some choices): There are any number of McDonald's and similar places, but if crap food and slack-jawed staff aren't your bag, try Ed's Diner (several branches) for made to order burgers. Pret a Manger is a chain of sandwich shops all over London. Everything is freshly made daily. You can eat in, too. There are lots of individual sandwich bars which are usually excellent. Belgo Centraal - Covent Garden. Belgian themed, with mussels a big feature, though their steaks and chicken are good too. They do a lunch deal at £5.95 and in the evening, if you go early (as many Americans are wont to do), they have a Beat the Clock deal - the price you pay is the same as the time you order, so if you order at 6.39pm your main course will cost £6.39. Great for families, great for beer (over 100 types). No good for quiet romantic dinners. Harrods, Knightsbridge - there are several cafes and food places. Their pizzas (food hall) are superb, as are their fresh sandwiches and wraps. For a treat try the Oyster Bar. The Punch Cafe (near the antique print dept) does a very good afternoon tea at reasonable price. Warning: confiscate wife's credit card before entry. Fish and Chips are generally a disaster in London - you have to go to the North of England, where they use dripping to fry in. Avoid the Harry Ramsdens chain (recently panned by critics). Around the Edgware Road/Marble Arch/Queensway area there are lots of small, relatively cheap restaurants offering all sorts of cuisines. Pre-theatre, why not do it in style and go to the Savoy? They do pre-theatre dinners and often have special offers. Likewise Simpson's, which is almost next door. I also recommend Claridges for a special dinner - in the Reading Room 2 courses are around £25. I was there again on Saturday and it was just superb. Any impeccably dressed gentleman will feel completely at home. I think the Criterion in Piccadilly also does a pre-theatre deal, but can be expensive. If you are ex-military, try the Victory Services Club near Marble Arch. Their Grill Room is good, and the bar is subsidised.... Cheap accommodation too, for those entitled. Afternoon Tea at the Ritz is a must-do, but a trifle expensive. Claridge's and the Connaught also do very good afternoon tea. Fortnum and Mason's Fountain Cafe is good, and has a convenient exit onto Jermyn Street. Most pubs have food, and this is usually a good option for 'routine' lunches. Note that the better places will have a dress code - usually jacket and tie, but dining in London is usually informal. I have eaten in all the places I have recommended above, but there are many other excellent places to eat.
     


  3. MPS

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    If you're after food in a hurry, I'd recommend "Eat" over "Pret a manger". For a nice meal, I would also recommend Gordon Ramsay at Claridges.
     


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    £45 is the sales price.

    So they already have started this price?

    Have you seen prices of cashemer scarves?
     


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    I advice you the casino...
     


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    Is the choice of shirts much better in the bigger shop tahn in the small one in Jermyn street?
     


  8. ViroBono

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    The choice of shirts is different, not bigger - outlet shops tend to sell ends of ranges and so on.

    I do not think the H & K January sale has started early - the reduced prices are a reflection of the current economic circumstances.
     


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    In Jeremyn street you have 2 shops, a small one and a large one. I have only been in the small one which has no much products. Have the larger one the same products + others products or the same but in a bigger quantity?

    What do you call an outlet shop?

    Prices are the same as during sales, once official sales will come, prices will rmain the same by H&K as these are their sales prices
     


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    No, it's started at this time for the last three years. It is indeed the Sale by Mail. Of course, given that it's been the last three years, maybe it does reflect the shitty world economy.
     


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    (ViroBono @ 08 Dec. 2004, 11:35) I do not think the H & K January sale has started early - the reduced prices are a reflection of the current economic circumstances.
    No, it's started at this time for the last three years. Â It is indeed the Sale by Mail. Â Of course, given that it's been the last three years, maybe it does reflect the shitty world economy.
    were H&K sales so interesting a few year ago?
     


  12. Mike Hayden

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    OK, now a price question. I did get in the Gieves & Hawkes shop in Bath during my last visit to England, but this was our first visit and sight seeing was the priority. I remember the RTW suits being nice, but I do not remember the price. What are the usual prices and what is the sales price I might see in January?
     


  13. ViroBono

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    Usual price of a Gieves and Thieves suit is between £399 - £799. I got one for £200 in the sale. I also bought a sports jacket (£399) and a splendid striped boating jacket (£299) for £50 each.
     


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    Are they likely to have a sale still on Jan 6 onwards? (I hope so.)
     


  15. ViroBono

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    Nonk

    I'm in London on Monday and again on Tuesday, so I'll try and find out when the Gieves sale starts.
     


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