LOAKE APPRECIATION & SHOE P0RN THREAD

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by wurger, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. marcodalondra

    marcodalondra Senior member

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    Some models in the shoemakers line are also made in Northampton but are not 1880 grade, and I suspect those CT are like that
     


  2. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    my thoughts as well, you can tell by the finish on the sole, while Herring Loake range is similar sole finish as the 1880 range.
     




  3. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    charge rrp of 350 to 400 pounds for a Loake, what a rip, no wonder they have to run sales all the time, haha.

    But they do look like 1880 range, you are right. :fonz:
     


  4. Yowzer

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    Looking at the Charles Tyrwhitt thread on SF, the pricier CT shoes appear to be 1880. Then again, Loake makes shoes for Herring and Pediwear too..

    High RRP, larger 'discounts'... just like in Oz. Makes it attractive for the uninitiated...
     


  5. Mr Knightley

    Mr Knightley Senior member

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    wurger, I have a couple of questions.

    You mentioned in your Aldwych review (which I enjoyed) that the double stitching on the uppers is neat, same goes for the inside lining. Would you say that one of the bigger differences between the 1880 shoe and the Loake Shoemaker range, even the better ones, is the neatness of finishing? My Kews cannot compare to this standard.

    You also said the soles have nice patterned grooves, which 'my cobbler applied topy to'. You then go on to talk about a slight imbalance between the sole and heel. Is that imbalance a result of having the topy added? I know some posters here do not advocate the fitting of a stick-on sole for this and other resaons. I should be interested in your views.

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  6. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    I have a pair of Loake Tweeds, which is from the shoemaker range, but priced quite close to 1880 range, at 185 pounds, so I find the finishing very good, can't tell much from the uppers, but the tongue is stitched from only one side of the quarter instead of the vamp. The heel top layer is entirely rubber unlike the leather heel with rubber tip.

    I can guarantee you that having topy on soles does not in any way throw off the balance of a shoe, it's a complete myth. Firstly, a rubber topy is only 1mm thick, and the cobbler needs to rough up the sole before applying topy, so the actually thickness increase is even less than 1mm, so it's just not enough to affect the balance. Secondly, since I apply topy to all of my shoes, my Tricker's and Alfred Sargents are still perfectly balanced, so I believe it's definitely due to the design and how the heel is made.
     
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  7. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    it's more like the uninformed...
     


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    So it appears the differences between the 1880 and the Shoemaker lines are mainly in the finishing touches and the sole. How are the leathers like between the Tweed and say the Aldwych?

    I second wurger's topy comment. I have topys on most of my shoes. No difference at all in terms of balance or feel other than not slipping anymore on tiles or in the wet. On the other hand, it makes the sole last so much longer.

    Edit: 'uninformed' it is... brain's quite dead by now.
     
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  9. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    To be honest, they are like the same to me when I touch and feel them with my hands, and no difference when I wear them.
     


  10. Yowzer

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    Good stuff, cheerio.
     


  11. Mr Knightley

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    Quote:Thanks for the Topy comments. I have tended to have them fitted to more casual shoes but have not done so where more 'formal' styles are concerned. If the day comes when, despite the protection afforded by the Topy, you need to send the shoes back to the manufacturer for a re-sole is there any penalty to pay financially or otherwise?
     


  12. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    For me, the whole point of topy is that I will never need to send the shoes back to manufacturers to resole, and the added grip.
     


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    I think that the big part of the price difference between the "made in england" lines (1880/Shoemakers) depends from the imported sewed uppers for the Shoemakers line, and clearly from the quality of raw materials, better in 1880, the finish is pretty the same.
     
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  14. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    interesting, Alex, it does make sense, however, how do we know that they are imported?
     


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