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LL Bean + Rogues Gallery = LL Bean Signature

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by TheDroog, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. bimmernate

    bimmernate Senior member

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    pretty geeked. 14 days

    oh man i want every pair of those shoes
     
  2. the_state

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    +100000000000

    the obsession over "made in USA" gets a little ridiculous
    Just because something is made in the USA does not by any means guarantee that its made well / of good quality and just because something is made in china/el salvador/wherever the fuck doesn't mean that its a piece of shit.


    thank you.
     
  3. xchen

    xchen Senior member

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    I am looking forward to this immensely.
     
  4. deveandepot1

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    the obsession over "made in USA" gets a little ridiculous
    Just because something is made in the USA does not by any means guarantee that its made well / of good quality and just because something is made in china/el salvador/wherever the fuck doesn't mean that its a piece of shit.


    +1
     
  5. dport86

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    the obsession over "made in USA" gets a little ridiculous
    Just because something is made in the USA does not by any means guarantee that its made well / of good quality and just because something is made in china/el salvador/wherever the fuck doesn't mean that its a piece of shit.


    It certainly doesn't, as the many Gucci and Prada shoe customers should be able to attest. However, manufacturers are not going to places like El Salvador for their long traditions of hand-lasting and stitching, or when they want to use the finest materials to match the highest grade of workmanship. If L.L. Bean made their bluchers with the same quality of leather, stitching and lasting that they once did in America, I'd be happy to by them again, be they made in El Salvador or Antarctica. Since their current range of El Salvador made mocassins are not the same quality, I won't be buying these.

    For those that never wore the old ones, they will probably consider them good value and feel good that they are wearing a heritage product.

    Oh and by the way, having visited shoe factories in China and Vietnam (never been to El Salvador) having a bunch of 15 year old girls who are locked in and sometimes made to work 24 hour shifts, whatever your political inclinations, is not the best way to get well-made merch...
     
  6. xchen

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    It certainly doesn't, as the many Gucci and Prada shoe customers should be able to attest. However, manufacturers are not going to places like El Salvador for their long traditions of hand-lasting and stitching, or when they want to use the finest materials to match the highest grade of workmanship. If L.L. Bean made their bluchers with the same quality of leather, stitching and lasting that they once did in America, I'd be happy to by them again, be they made in El Salvador or Antarctica. Since their current range of El Salvador made mocassins are not the same quality, I won't be buying these.

    For those that never wore the old ones, they will probably consider them good value and feel good that they are wearing a heritage product.

    Oh and by the way, having visited shoe factories in China and Vietnam (never been to El Salvador) having a bunch of 15 year old girls who are locked in and sometimes made to work 24 hour shifts, whatever your political inclinations, is not the best way to get well-made merch...


    I have a pair of the new ones and some vintage ones that I paid $4 for at a thrift store, and this is correct. The old ones are waaaaaay sturdier and more durable, and the leather actually looks better with age as opposed to worse like the new ones.
     
  7. StanleyVanBuren

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    I'm still looking forward to the red/navy flannel shirt. I know it's nothing too original, but I really like the proportions on this one.
     
  8. StanleyVanBuren

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    I'm still looking forward to the red/navy flannel shirt. I know it's nothing too original, but I really like the proportions on this one.

    although my only concern is these are beginning to become somewhat ubiquitous... [​IMG]
     
  9. bluemagic

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    Down with the WTO!!!
     
  10. b-ill

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    Just got the Ranger Mocs in the mail. For $80, they are a really great deal. The leather is nice and thick, fit is comfortable, and the stitching looks good considering they're made in El Salvador. They aren't Quoddy but they look to be a pretty good deal at that price point.
     
  11. Yet123

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    Oh and by the way, having visited shoe factories in China and Vietnam (never been to El Salvador) having a bunch of 15 year old girls who are locked in and sometimes made to work 24 hour shifts, whatever your political inclinations, is not the best way to get well-made merch...

    Actually, sweatshops in China have gotten a lot better. Many less developed countries these days have it much worse (like countries where the vast majority of poor "15 year old girls" who can't get sweatshop jobs become prostitutes). Every single economist actually considers sweatshops important factors to many Asian countries' developments, haha. So as the countries develop and quality of life improves, generally sweatshop workers are paid more, and sometimes even need better, more expensive tools to make their wares. This is why so many companies no longer make things in China: not because of the stigma, but because its simply getting more expensive. I wouldn't be surprised, with the way quality of life is improving even for the poor in China right now, if China's workers continue to improve the quality of their merchandise.

    BTW IM NOT trying to argue the fact that these sweatshops make well made merchandise, as good as the handmade Italian ones, etc. I'm merely pointing out a misconception many in developed nations have about sweatshops.
     
  12. Seafinch

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    Just got the Ranger Mocs in the mail. For $80, they are a really great deal. The leather is nice and thick, fit is comfortable, and the stitching looks good considering they're made in El Salvador. They aren't Quoddy but they look to be a pretty good deal at that price point.

    Let's see pics!!!
     
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    Actually, sweatshops in China have gotten a lot better. Many less developed countries these days have it much worse (like countries where the vast majority of poor "15 year old girls" who can't get sweatshop jobs become prostitutes). Every single economist actually considers sweatshops important factors to many Asian countries' developments, haha. So as the countries develop and quality of life improves, generally sweatshop workers are paid more, and sometimes even need better, more expensive tools to make their wares. This is why so many companies no longer make things in China: not because of the stigma, but because its simply getting more expensive. I wouldn't be surprised, with the way quality of life is improving even for the poor in China right now, if China's workers continue to improve the quality of their merchandise.

    BTW IM NOT trying to argue the fact that these sweatshops make well made merchandise, as good as the handmade Italian ones, etc. I'm merely pointing out a misconception many in developed nations have about sweatshops.


    So in what country exactly do the majority of 15 year old girls become prostitutes? God, the Chinese are so lucky to have sweatshops to keep their girls from hooking. please.

    Check out some footage shot with permission of factory owners in China where mardi gras beads are made: http://www.carnivalesquefilms.com/Mardi_Gras.html.

    Yep, we had sweats shops in America. Remember the Triangle Factory fire? Things got better here. For the vast majority of migrant workers in China, things are not better, they're worse now than they were 5 years ago.
     
  14. deveandepot1

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    I just want blacked out Bean boots dammit.
     
  16. justtemple

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    I just want blacked out Bean boots dammit.

    sounds so sexy...
     
  17. Doin' Fine.

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    sounds so sexy...

    Indeed it do. Those would be kopped swift.
     
  18. eglbc

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    got my ranger mocs.
    They get all sorts of compliments, and i didnt spend 300$. My feets cant tell the difference.
     
  19. Alec_Jan

    Alec_Jan Well-Known Member

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    would also like to see some pics of the mocs that came in for you guys. Also, how's the fit? TTS? I do a 10.5 in Sperrys, which is quite tight, but it stretches out nicely. Can I expect the same with the camp moc and/or blucher moc?

    Thanks
     
  20. b-ill

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    would also like to see some pics of the mocs that came in for you guys. Also, how's the fit? TTS? I do a 10.5 in Sperrys, which is quite tight, but it stretches out nicely. Can I expect the same with the camp moc and/or blucher moc? Thanks
    You might want to go down .5 size, depending on what type of socks (if any) you are going to wear with them. I'm a size 8.5 in Indy's and a 9 in Alden Unlined Chukkas (Leydon last). I got a size 9 in these and they are a little big if I have on thin socks.
     

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