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Limited Run SF only Handmade Bakers Oak Bark tanned Belt - possibly to include Russet

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Equus Leather, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. randomkoreandude

    randomkoreandude Senior member

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    yeah the ability to change out buckle would be great for long term use. so screws or snaps, i dont really care.

    thanks so much!!!
     
  2. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Hi Guys,

    Just an update to this.

    First of all, it's been pointed out that Russet/undyed leather is liked in here. If there is enough interest I'd be prepared to add it as third colour to this run. If your keen let me know!

    London Tan has sold well but there is still plenty left, if youd like a belt just let me know

    Australian Nut has all but sold out, if your keen don't leave it too long or you may not get one.

    Many thanks to all subscribers! I'll post progress as the project continues

    Charlie
     
  3. mikecch

    mikecch Senior member

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    ^ Would be very interested in the undyed bridle butt...be curious to see how it compares to Baker's raw oak-bark.

    Why do they call it Australian nut?
    I think this is the same leather from Baker's that I have here (mine is thicker at 6mm):
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    If so, it's a fantastic leather :)
     
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  4. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Hi Mike,

    I'll add you to the interested list. I suspect that the difference between the raw oak bark and the russet bridle butt will be that the bridle butt has been stuffed with tanners grease. I will enquire though, Bakers descriptions are somewhat idiosyncratic to say the least and their price list tends to require clarification! Rather nicely it also includes their telegraphic address!

    Regarding Australian Nut, it's a very old bridle leather colour that goes back centuries and I suspect was at one point made with nuts from Australia! It's a brown with some red in as a rule and all the makers of proper English bridle butt have a version.

    Good pics in both threads btw..

    Charlie
     
  5. mikecch

    mikecch Senior member

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    ^ I see, thanks for the description!

    I've heard of nut tanning in old days (but nut dyeing?), but it seems as if most modern tanneries use nut powder & concentrates?
    Very interesting though.
    My bad, when I bought that particular belt it was stated to be made of 'oak-tanned shoulder', and it was mentioned that Baker's oak-tan doesn't get the fat/oil immersion or setting treatment that the bridle does.

    Was wondering how you'd compare Baker's bridle compared to the bridle curried by Sedgewick?
    Thanks in advance for your insight :)
     
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  6. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    All kinds of random things have been used to dye leather and most other things over the years. Nowadays as you say the dye is very likely to be a concentrate powder with a distinct lack of actual nut in it, I'll ask the tanneries we deal with though when I next speak to them, it's an interesting one.

    The oak tanned shoulder will be a lower grade leather than bridle butt, the tanneries use the better grades fir the more expensive leather and butt is a more dense less scared bit of the hide. As you say the stuffing with oils/waxes is missed out as well.

    Comparing Sedgwick and Bakers is quite difficult TBH. They are both extremely good, the best in the world really and the differences are down to the preferences of the individual. The most obvious difference is the Bakers in the colours we're looking at is far more aniline, there tends to be a clear mottling which is pleasing if that's what you want. It feels very nice in the hand, is supple and has a very nice leather smell as well. It will age beautifully and the colours will mature very well. In favour of the Sedgwicks it is available in a much wider range of colours and the colours are very consistent both accros the butt and between batches, so we as makers know what colour something will be before it arrives. We get through a lot of Sedgwick leather and I have only ever returned 1 piece, they very consistently make very good dense leather.

    HTH!

    Charlie
     
  7. mikecch

    mikecch Senior member

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    ^ Thanks for that!
    Will have to try out a couple of your Sedgwick ones :)
     
  8. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I'll be interested in your view on the differences if you do.

    Charlie
     
  9. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Hi Guys,

    This is a repost from Mens Clothing - sorry, wanted to make sure none missed out who is involved

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    Hi All,

    As promised photos as we progress. The Bakers delivery had just delivered both the Australian Nut and London Tan

    For those of you who either know Sedgwicks leather through us or anyone else

    The Australian Nut is redder and variegated in colour and changes colour when its flexed, not dissimilar to a pull up leather. It shows more scars and marks than I would expect in a Sedgwick piece but this compliments the colour. Its a similar substance to Sedgwicks but noticeably more flexible. Its more heavily greased as it arrives. The colour is very pleasing to my eye. In the image below Sedgwicks is on the left.

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    The London Tan is a more warm colour than the Sedgwicks and shows more variation but not to quite the same degree as the Aus Nut. Whilst the Aus Nut from Bakers really isn't the same colour as Sedgwicks Aus Nut the London Tan from both makers is quite similar. On balance I have to say I prefer the colour of the Bakers I think, its a little more orange and a little less yellow and is extremely nice. In common with the Aus Nut its about the same weight as the Sedgwicks but more flexible. The cut strap in the photo below is Sedgwicks. The photo doesn't do justice to either colour but London Tan is a swine to photograph at the best of times...

    [​IMG]

    Better photos will follow in due course but I thought people would be interested in quick first impressions. I think people will be pleased when they see their belts first hand. The London Tan isn't fully subscribed and I think people are missing out because its one of the nicest coloured bits of leather Ive seen for a long time.

    I have a sample of the Russet here as well and will be in touch with those who have expressed an interest in due course

    Charlie
     
  10. tropics

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    is the australian nut list full?
     
  11. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Hi Tropics,

    Very nearly but not quite, theres a couple of places left if your quick!

    Charlie
     
  12. Equus Leather

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    Hi all,

    I've just sent a pm to all who have expressed an interest in Russet - we're good to go if all those who expressed an interest are still keen. If you'd like one just let me know and we'll work out the details!

    What I propose to make is this;

    A very simple unornamented Russet belt with the focus on the character of the leather. The belt will have plain, un-burnished and un dyed edges. We will crease mark the belt but this is optional if you prefer not. The buckle will be stitched in at 8 stitched to the inch using 18/4 linen thread in a cream colour to match the simple look of the belt. The stitching is heavier in weight and thread size than our normal style - I think this will compliment the simplicity of the overall design. I suggest a brass West End Roller buckle for the belt which will make it available in 1", 1 1/4", 1 3/8" and 1 1/2" widths. The buckle looks more like our West End than the stainless steel West End Roller and is unique to this belt in our product range so that it has a buckle all of its own. We won't refinish the buckle or polish it so it will be starting to acquire its natural patina even before it arrives with you.

    The belt will be made from 4mm Russet Bakers Bridle butt and I think the weight of the leather should vary towards the heavier rather than lighter as the intention is for a chunky belt that will age well.

    I'm happy to customise the design as much as possible for individuals and you can pick any of our stainless, brass or nickel buckles if you'd prefer something different than the above. Anything you want to customise can probably be done

    The price will be the same as the rest of the Bakers belt project belts, so £52.50 for anything up to 1 1/4" and £55 for anything over that plus P&P as per earlier messages. If you already have a belt ordered in another colour P&P will only be the increment, we'll ship everything together to save your postage costs. The belt will come with ones certificates stating the origin of the leather, the number of belts in the run and the number of your belt, etc etc all as per the original thread.

    If you'd like to be involved then please just drop me a PM with your paypal email address, shipping info, width, length and buckle choice and a reminder if you have already have a belt ordered so we can combine the orders for you that would be great.

    To get an idea of the buckle selection have a look at our website


    Our sizing guide is here


    This is largely a copy and paste of the PM so sorry to those who have the info already.
    Charlie
     
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  13. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    Charlie,

    If you could possible snag some larger quick release buckles, I think that would be a perfect compliment to this belt.
     
  14. Equus Leather

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    Rambo,

    They would work really well, but we can only get the 1 1/4 I'm afraid, sorry!

    Charlie
     
  15. Rambo

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    I know, but as a special project, it might be worth hunting down. The SW&D guys love those things.
     
  16. Equus Leather

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    I've sent you a PM

    Charlie
     
  17. Equus Leather

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    Hi All,

    I've just posted this in Mens Clothing, but a copy and paste so no-one misses it..

    Just a quick update. The first of the belts have been made and will be on their way to their owner tomorrow. We're still waiting for the brass fobs to be made (suppliers drive me mad...) but will be here shortly but we will send them separately if we have to so people don't had to wait longer than needs be. The belts are being made in the order they were ordered, if that makes sense and we'll send a message to each new owner as their belt is made to confirm its about to be sent and give them tracking numbers etc. It'll take a while to get through them all as I'm making each one personally but if anyone wants an individual estimate just drop me a PM.

    The Russet, which was the last of the three colours to be ordered, is due here this afternoon - Bakers have had a big response to the photo story that started all this and I think have struggled to keep up with demand a bit. Good news for them and for us as fans of what they do. I'll post a picture of it when its here.

    I know Ive said it before, but I love the smell of the Australian Nut, its how leather should smell...

    Charlie
     
  18. Equus Leather

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    Quick picture of the russet - rubbish picture but the natural marks, scars and striations are present and visible as you would expect. I plan to cut it in such a way that scars that weaken or compromise the leather will be avoided but anything else will be used. The point to me of the russet is the character of the leather and it seems a shame to remove the features that make it what it is. Very happy to try to accommodate anyone who wants as clean a piece as possible, likewise anyone who specifically wants scars!

    Charlie

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  19. Rambo

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    Chicks dig scars.
     
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