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Light/medium gray as a suit color

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Svenn, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. bc78

    bc78 Senior member

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    Maybe, but they pick up different types of dirt. The suit is partly designed to allow men to be anonymous, to b powerful. That's why there arent a lot of light grey suits around which in turn makes people think they might be "special" wearing it. I could see a spikey haired, Guci boy wearing one.

    Light grey is not a work suit unless your work involves underscoring how you are not from the typical concept of white collar worker. But for social, wear waht you like, I think you might be pissing your money away.[​IMG]

    Medium grey is a good color. Medium blue or blue grey is alright for men who's coloring it underscores but for most it looks too showy. "Look at me, I gotz me a custom made jobber"

    I think light grey is popular on here because it is near to the white suit, maybe it has become the white suit. Americans associate white clothes with all things expensive, high and pure.


    I don't know about that. I think light grey is a pretty acceptable work suit, especially in the summer. I agree that Medium grey is a safer bet though. I think petrol or blue grey is also pretty safe. Like light grey, I wouldn't wear it to a funeral or an extremely important client meeting, but I think it is totally fine for most work situations.
     
  2. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    . . . Industry people Ive spoken with also point out that light grey suits are prone to discoloration over time from urine stains. So if you have a lot of suits or it's purely for casual, I like it a lot more than for your workaday.
    A lesser man would have been too timid to speak truth to power. I salute you.
     
  3. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    A lesser man would have been too timid to speak truth to power. I salute you.

    Which finger?

    Actually, this whole critical issue of urine and tailored clothing has had some degree of scholarly treatment on StyleForum. There is literally a gold mine into which one might dive right here on The Forvm.

    Some abstracts:

    p**s stained crotch? Thank Ebay... "Some yellow clouds of leftover from some incontinent old man."

    Yellow (?urine/groin sweat) stains on trousers??? . "Like i said i think alot of it comes from old men and prostate problems not being able to get the last shake in."

    Filene's Basement's urine stain pants. "The pants has a white lining right between the crotch and that shit was dark yellow."

    Careful study will be rewarded.

    The true gentleman will, of course, sit to wee wee. This is what Grant and Agnelli did, for example.

    It is absolutely a fact that you should pick clothing based on the high likelihood that you will soil it with urine or excrement. Frankly, it is a little known story from the world of editing that Flusser had a whole chapter devoted to this in his first book, a chapter called, "Man and the Crap." "Crap" was changed to "drape" as the book went from galley to press, and the rest is history.

    Gentlemen: please...stick to brown and yellow suits. Should you stray from intestinal colors, I warn you: you risk exposure.

    - B
     
  4. Bird's One View

    Bird's One View Senior member

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    The careful gentleman will, of course, sit to urinate.

    It is that, or use the sink.
     
  5. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    It is that, or use the sink.

    True.

    Less splash. More flash.

    Plus, the man with the towel and cologne is right there.


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  6. Bird's One View

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  7. Felix Krull

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    Light grey suits lend themselves to much experimentation with ties, shirts, etc. How serious they are to be taken depends on how you accompany them. It serves perfectly well as a year-round suit as it can be fitted with a charcoal overcoat in the winter, if necessary, while holding its own to keep you cool in the summer.

    That said, they certainly do not have the clout of a steely navy or charcoal in the boardroom or before a jury. But if worn correctly they can become a needed staple of your wardrobe.
     
  8. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It is that, or use the sink.

    Peeing in the sink brings back memories of drunken college evenings college even faster than debating postmodernism in a Thom Browne thread.
     
  9. whacked

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    Peeing in the sink brings back memories of drunken college evenings college even faster than debating postmodernism in a Thom Browne thread.

    Did you get shorter with age?
     
  10. Spatlese

    Spatlese Senior member

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    Soup to nuts to suit. I get it now.
     
  11. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Really? I would never have thought that to be the case.

    And you would be correct.

    Light gray is a great color. I have a light gray fresco suit, and a piece of linen I will make next year. Also a worsted flannel that will get made ... some day.
     
  12. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Did you get shorter with age?

    Or longer?
     
  13. voxsartoria

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    Peeing in the sink brings back memories of drunken college evenings college even faster than debating postmodernism in a Thom Browne thread.

    Wait...all you did in the sink was pee?

    Was it Bible college?


    - B
     
  14. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Or longer?

    Or more accurate?


    - B
     
  15. Film Noir Buff

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    Which finger? Actually, this whole critical issue of urine and tailored clothing has had some degree of scholarly treatment on StyleForum. There is literally a gold mine into which one might dive right here on The Forvm. Some abstracts: p**s stained crotch? Thank Ebay... "Some yellow clouds of leftover from some incontinent old man." Yellow (?urine/groin sweat) stains on trousers??? . "Like i said i think alot of it comes from old men and prostate problems not being able to get the last shake in." Filene's Basement's urine stain pants. "The pants has a white lining right between the crotch and that shit was dark yellow." Careful study will be rewarded. The true gentleman will, of course, sit to wee wee. This is what Grant and Agnelli did, for example. It is absolutely a fact that you should pick clothing based on the high likelihood that you will soil it with urine or excrement. Frankly, it is a little known story from the world of editing that Flusser had a whole chapter devoted to this in his first book, a chapter called, "Man and the Crap." "Crap" was changed to "drape" as the book went from galley to press, and the rest is history. Gentlemen: please...stick to brown and yellow suits. Should you stray from intestinal colors, I warn you: you risk exposure. - B
    Actually a true gentleman can do his business with his pants and braces securely in place. Which explains their predilection for fresco cloth because they actsas a sort of "coffee filter" . [​IMG]
     
  16. Svenn

    Svenn Senior member

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    That's why there arent a lot of light grey suits around which in turn makes people think they might be "special" wearing it. I could see a spikey haired, Guci boy wearing one.

    That said, they certainly do not have the clout of a steely navy or charcoal in the boardroom or before a jury. But if worn correctly they can become a needed staple of your wardrobe.

    Are you guys characterizing the suit I posted below in the category of 'light gray'? I think I picked out a shade of gray at the tailor that is clearly beyond the 'charchoal' category but I don't think it's the near-white light gray you guys are describing.

    I always think of a medium gray suit as like that of an IRS or boring government man... I really hope I don't end up looking like a Gucci boy wearing one. I know it all depends on the cut of the suit, but I'm really afraid, because I'm young-looking, that I'll end of looking like a high-school band member or sports-banquet dude if I get a dark colored suit. I'm going to be a lawyer in a really small town, where none of the other lawyers I bet will even be wearing tailored suits, if even matching jackets and pants. I'm getting this thing tailored in Tokyo, and the tailor seems to be quite knowledgable about what consitutes 'British-style', something I dont think I'd find for this cheap price (around $400) in the US. Anyway, I haven't bought it yet so someone stop me if I'm making a disastrous choice here. [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Film Noir Buff

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    Are you guys characterizing the suit I posted below in the category of 'light gray'? I think I picked out a shade of gray at the tailor that is clearly beyond the 'charchoal' category but I don't think it's the near-white light gray you guys are describing. I always think of a medium gray suit as like that of an IRS or boring government man... I really hope I don't end up looking like a Gucci boy wearing one. I know it all depends on the cut of the suit, but I'm really afraid, because I'm young-looking, that I'll end of looking like a high-school band member or sports-banquet dude if I get a dark colored suit. I'm going to be a lawyer in a really small town, where none of the other lawyers I bet will even be wearing tailored suits, if even matching jackets and pants. I'm getting this thing tailored in Tokyo, and the tailor seems to be quite knowledgable about what consitutes 'British-style', something I dont think I'd find for this cheap price (around $400) in the US. Anyway, I haven't bought it yet so someone stop me if I'm making a disastrous choice here. [​IMG] [​IMG]
    We rarely discuss qualities or cuts. Sure, just about any suit can be dulled down to the point that they suck. I once saw someone in a double breasted chalk stripe suit with such an awful tie and shoes I wondered if he hadnt been made to put the suit on at gun point. I cant see if there is a pattern in this suit but I would say it's light grey. Light grey suits are similar to black suits in that you need to consider the quality of cloth, the cut etc. more than with dark grey and navy suits which come with a conformist anonimity. Although at this point, the black suit at least has both shock value and anonymity while the light grey suit has mostly shock value. But, it's a matter of context. If youre in an area where they are common, no problem. If it's the dead of summer, no problem. If you run a record label, no problem But if youre the head of AIG asking for bailout money, then maybe problem. Although, even the AIG-Bailout scenario is interesting because if the CEO shows up in a beautiful light grey suit with nice accesories he might look like he's giving congress the finger, whereas if he shows up in a cheaper one with blah accesories he might look more humble and powerless. This is the problem with light grey suits, they have no universal context so you must consider them on a case by case basis. Which is why if you dont know what the devil youre doing, get a charcoal suit.
     
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  18. Fuuma

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    In the USA, the medium grey suit is a very well-to-do sort of suit. The rest of the world doesn't like lighter suits as much except to make statements with or socially. Here medium grey flannels, sharkskins, birdseyes and stripes have the American old money look. I think one of the reasons Bertie in "Jeeves and Wooster" wore medium grey suits was to show he was a wastrel and a dilletante.


    Light grey suits which have some texture or pattern in them such as a PoW, sharkskin are alright for the duldrums of a humid summer but they get dirty easily. I even have a length of light grey flannel from Smiths if I ever get around to making it up.

    Problem with light grey suits for work is you have to start worrying too much about appearance which may come off as a feminine trait. Industry people Ive spoken with also point out that light grey suits are prone to discoloration over time from urine stains. So if you have a lot of suits or it's purely for casual, I like it a lot more than for your workaday.


    What kind of industry are they working in? I always knew what went on behind the closed doors of corporate america wasn't very nice but I'm shocked to learn it requires resistance to urine stains discoloration..

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  19. itsstillmatt

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    What kind of industry are they working in? I always knew what went on behind the closed doors of corporate america wasn't very nice but I'm shocked to learn it requires resistance to urine stains discoloration..

    .

    Artificial bladders are the new year end bonus.
     
  20. Fuuma

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    Artificial bladders are the new year end bonus.

    I'm interviewing to become a high level strategic advisor in iterative market development, I was told that getting peed on was part of the interviewing process, do you have any outfit suggestion that will allow me to look professional while I'm getting soaked? I wouldn't want to look like I'm just out of college and not used to how the "real world"tm works.

    If I end up getting the job and have employees of my own, should I start eating asparagus or is it only for high performers? I wouldn't want my boss to think I'm trying to outpee him.
     

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