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Light grey suit appropriate for attorney in court?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SaveMeJebus, May 11, 2011.

  1. Big A

    Big A Senior member

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    I'm an attorney in south florida also, and I'm sure you've seen some ridiculous stuff in the courts down here. That suit would be perfectly fine for the hotter days or 3 "seasons" down here.

    I saw an older attorney wearing the wrinkliest black orphaned suit jacket and faded jeans with skecher sneakers in west palm beach the other day. The opposing counsel wore a suit about 3 sizes too large and it was covered in dog fur.

    When I get appointed to the bench, I will admonish counsel for poor sartorial choices before making any rulings...we have to clean up this mess down here.


    I think I know who you are talking about too - especially the dog fur guy. Big fat guy? Fred something?

    If you're in West Palm Beach, you've seen David Preefer (spelling?), an older guy, tanned to leather, who usually wears a blazer, no tie, jeans, no socks, and lots of gold neck chains and other miscellaneous bracelets.

    Multiple judges have kicked him out for his clothing over the years. A few have even held him in contempt. He never changes. I used to know literally every one of the 40 judges on the bench down there (there's been some turnover, so I now probably only know 20 of them) and I can tell you that the consensus is that it just isn't worth the trouble to hassle attorneys over their clothing. For one thing, it's hotter than hell about 3/4 of the year. For another, you get so swamped in court that fucking around with some lawyer over their clothing is a waste of time. Some of the best attorneys (for some reason) are the odd dressers.

    For example, I don't know if you've been in front of Judge Nelson Bailey since he's out in Belle Glade. He may be retired. He's a great guy, raised in Tavares, Florida. When he was a lawyer he did primarily criminal defense, and was fantastic at it. However, he dressed like an 1890's cowboy - western suit, hat, super-long beard, the works. It wasn't a gimmick - the guy raised horses, studied Florida history, and was a genuine Florida cracker, but it broke every rule about (1) what you should wear to court and (2) what a criminal defense attorney should wear.

    There are two other judges I can think of off hand (Moyle and Evans) who wore nothing but jeans, every damn day. They're both Harley guys. The list goes on.

    The only guy I can think of who was a stickler about it was infamous hard-ass Richard Wennett, and even he failed to change the culture.

    In short, if you ever do make it to the bench, don't spend too much time fighting with S. Fla lawyers over clothing . . . many before you have tried, and they've lost that battle again and again.
     
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    Standards in American Courts do seem to be slipping more than somewhat.
     
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    Standards in American Courts do seem to be slipping more than somewhat.
    Standards in every professional discipline, I'd argue
     
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    I see a lot of these "appropriate for court" type threads, so what is ideal courtroom dress? 90% of the lawyers I see are either wearing Jos A Bank sacks or goofy custom black-lawyer suits.
     
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    As a rule, I wear a dark grey or dark blue suit, but I see many lawyers in odd jackets and ties. I don't appear in court in Florida very often, but I can't see any problem with wearing a light suit there, particularly the suit you pictured.
     
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    I'm a criminal trial lawyer, don't love the suit, but it's fine for court when it's warm.
     
  8. crider8883

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    I see a lot of these "appropriate for court" type threads, so what is ideal courtroom dress? 90% of the lawyers I see are either wearing Jos A Bank sacks or goofy custom black-lawyer suits.

    A good starting point is the CBD thread. Just about anything there would fly as a trial lawyer.

    Most lawyers don't spend too much time in court, so there's no need to have a lot of suits, or a good working knowledge of mens wear.

    Additionally, you have to know what your audience is. The kind of suits which would fly in Philadelphia criminal trial court won't play in a federal civil trial court (federal courts pull from a much larger area, and consequently the jury pool is much more diverse.)
     

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