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Lexus GS or BMW 5 Series?

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Lawman, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. suited

    suited Well-Known Member

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    Another Japanese blah-mobile. Looks like a Buick, drives like one too, except quieter. The juvenile bling bling (or homeboy chrome) rims just make it look like someone got their mom's car and is trying to make it look cool.

    Only one of those cars has chrome wheels. Do you know what chrome is?

    It sure does drive like a Buick. I can do 80mph down the interstate on 35 series tires and it feels like I'm doing 25mph, this is clearly a common trait among Buicks.
     
  2. JohnD356

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    This is not a nitpick. The black 335s I test drove looked like they'd been painted at Maaco.

    Glad I'm not alone in my craziness. I told a guy at the dealership about it and you'd think I was talking about aliens. I know it won't make or break most people's perceptions of a car, but for a luxury brand, I think it's unacceptable.
     
  3. P-K-L

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    I would go with the BMW any day. I test drove a Lexus LS460 and found it just horrible - the suspension was way too soft and the whole interior felt cheap.

    Concerning the VW discussion - did you ever compare the keys of a VW, a Seat, Skoda, Audi, Bentley and Lamborghini? [​IMG]
     
  4. username79

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    Only one of those cars has chrome wheels. Do you know what chrome is? It sure does drive like a Buick. I can do 80mph down the interstate on 35 series tires and it feels like I'm doing 25mph, this is clearly a common trait among Buicks.
    You obviously have never driven a Buick, because they are easily capable of this. So is the Acura RL, which I feel is a very close competitor to the car above. Bland, safe, but come on, definitely not sporty. I have driven the Lexus, and I feel like I am going to wallow off the road as soon as I hit curves. And yes, I was referring to the first car with the chrome wheels when I mentioned chrome. I'm not blind. The other wheels are a joke. People that destroy the luxury feel of their old man luxury car by putting on big wheels, low profile tires, and a dropped suspension all while they are sliding back and forth on the un-bolstered couch seats (while holding that hideously gouache wood steering wheel) are hilarious. I don't really see the difference between doing the above to a GS or my grandmother's Toyota Avalon, as they pretty much look and drive the same.
     
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    Glad I'm not alone in my craziness. I told a guy at the dealership about it and you'd think I was talking about aliens. I know it won't make or break most people's perceptions of a car, but for a luxury brand, I think it's unacceptable.

    I had a black '09 328i loaner a few weeks ago and when they brought it around I had them mark down "excessive orange peel" on the pre-inspection sheet. This was before I had a chance to look at the rest of the cars, which turned out to look the same. I was sure the car had been wrecked and shoddily repaired, and wanted to be careful before accepting the car. It's that bad.
     
  6. Lawman

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    Thanks, guys. I just don't like the look of the 5 series, despite its rave reviews, incredible agility, etc. Those kabuki eye headlights and wedge-shaped tail light. Yechhhh. I'm not crazy about the Lexus either. The E320 has been pretty much a yawner. Maybe I'll buy a Challenger....
     
  7. username79

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    What about an E92 M-sport? Best looking BMW in a long, long time. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Don't think there is a better all-around (beauty, performance, sportiness, quality, value) car on the market right now.
     
  8. Master-Classter

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    I just wanted to add another comment about the ride style. What you may find is that even though driving more of a "performance" car is fun in a test drive but if you're doing either long drive cruising or a lot of stop start, a hard drive can actually be a little tiring (from what I hear) since it sort of requires more effort and you have to be so alert all the time. Even though the lexus and drives like it are a bit more cushy and soft when you push them hard, for daily driving they're comfortable.

    As I mentioned in an earlier post, you might consider at the same price point a suped up version of a lower model, like M3, IsF, CTS-V, etc...
     
  9. J'aimelescravates

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    Thanks, guys. I just don't like the look of the 5 series, despite its rave reviews, incredible agility, etc. Those kabuki eye headlights and wedge-shaped tail light. Yechhhh. I'm not crazy about the Lexus either. The E320 has been pretty much a yawner. Maybe I'll buy a Challenger....

    You have a just over 200hp V6 in a very heavy car (brake changes every 30k miles, come on!) I suggest trying an E550 or an E63 if you want the same luxury interior ( I love it) but with much more performance
     
  10. SirWilliam

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    Thanks, guys. I just don't like the look of the 5 series, despite its rave reviews, incredible agility, etc. Those kabuki eye headlights and wedge-shaped tail light. Yechhhh. I'm not crazy about the Lexus either. The E320 has been pretty much a yawner. Maybe I'll buy a Challenger....

    No! Chrysler makes bad products...and they steal money which is why they are filing for bankruptcy. A Pontiac G8 would be more fun...A Cadillac CTS-V would be even better.
     
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    You have a just over 200hp V6 in a very heavy car (brake changes every 30k miles, come on!) I suggest trying an E550 or an E63 if you want the same luxury interior ( I love it) but with much more performance

    Try the C63 AMG if you really want the opposite of a yawner. That car is a bit scary..
     
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    I don't know where you're located, but another thing to think about is if you want a car with all wheel drive. I had an x-drive 3 series when I lived in Seattle and it was definitely good for that weather. I don't think lexus makes awd GS.
     
  13. zippyh

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    I don't know where you're located, but another thing to think about is if you want a car with all wheel drive. I had an x-drive 3 series when I lived in Seattle and it was definitely good for that weather. I don't think lexus makes awd GS.

    They make an AWD GS350.
    My sister has one.

    Pricewise, there's a pretty big difference between a GS and a 5.
    I think my sister's car was about $43.5K with AWD and nav.
    That's about what I paid for my Acura RL.
    They're very similar cars. Quiet, nice ride, AWD, nav, lots of toys and absolutely no soul.
    (But I still have my S54 M Coupe for fun.)

    I don't think you can get a comparably equiped 5 series for anywhere near that price.
    Leasing probably changes the equation somewhat though.
     
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    You obviously have never driven a Buick
    Just drove my grandmother's a few weeks ago. You seemed to be very concerned with performance. Anyone who is seeking a "sports car" and buys any of these cars mentioned is a moron. If I wanted a sports car, I wouldn't be looking at a little baby car like a 5-series or an E-Class. I would have bought a Z06, or something else with some balls. I wanted a 4-door sedan that was extremely reliable and physically appealing to me, that's why I bought the GS.
     
  15. gnatty8

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    I just wanted to add another commend about the ride style. What you may find is that even though driving more of a "performance" car is fun in a test drive but if you're doing either long drive cruising or a lot of stop start, a hard drive can actually be a little tiring (from what I hear) since it sort of requires more effort and you have to be so alert all the time. Even though the lexus and drives like it are a bit more cushy and soft when you push them hard, for daily driving they're comfortable.

    As I mentioned in an earlier post, you might consider at the same price point a suped up version of a lower model, like M3, IsF, CTS-V, etc...


    M3 is definitely not in the same price point as a Lexus GS or 5-series BMW, particularly a suped-up M3.
     
  16. username79

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    Just drove my grandmother's a few weeks ago. You seemed to be very concerned with performance. Anyone who is seeking a "sports car" and buys any of these cars mentioned is a moron. If I wanted a sports car, I wouldn't be looking at a little baby car like a 5-series or an E-Class. I would have bought a Z06, or something else with some balls.
    Right. The examples you posted of people dropping their cars on low profile tires and large rims are those of people trying to make their cars evoke far sportier vehicles. Why would you post examples of such if you were not trying to prove that the GS could hold its own with the far more performance oriented BMWs? Your suggestion that there are only two types of cars -- old person commuters like a Lexus or flashy cars for balding mid-life crises like the Corvette is quite asinine. There are cars that are fun to drive AND can be driven to work daily. BMW is perfect for this. Lexus is not, as the fun to drive factor is completely missing. If you want to waft to work in comfort on flat seats, be completely removed from the road and the driving experience, and drive a completely anonymous vehicle, then chose the Lexus. It's not comparable to a five series, which is a very different animal: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] vs. [​IMG] [​IMG] (vomit) = [​IMG] = [​IMG]
     
  17. suited

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    I'd take the Lexus on appearance any day of the week. Nice touch choosing an interior shot with a cheap aftermarket plastic floor mat in the Lexus. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  18. SirWilliam

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    ...lets just face it both the BMW and the Lexus are hideous...prehaps you could consider a Jag XJ8
     
  19. gnatty8

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    ...lets just face it both the BMW and the Lexus are hideous...prehaps you could consider a Jag XJ8

    lol, you are an idiot..
     
  20. Lawman

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    I truly believe that they are both pretty unattractive. Although today I got turned on to a 550i with only 2,000 miles on it for $53K.....now that would be a fun care to drive.
     

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