So, genius that I am, I misread an ebay listing and bought the wrong size - my loss, your gain. These are some premium, durable American-made jeans. Slim, not skinny. Closest to the 514. They retail at $185 - I'm lettin' go of them for $85 plus shipping. They're new, never worn, without tags. Hand measurements are: Front rise: 10.5" Back rise: 13.5" Thigh: 10.5" Knee: 9" Leg Opening: 8.5" Any questions you got, don't hesitate to ask. Paypal only.