Also, after soaking to shrink the jeans, I do want to wash them in order to remove factory oils and starch (don't want premature holes forming). I picked up some Woolite Dark, which has gotten approval here. However, I've read that washing them in a conventional washer can damage the jeans. Question #2: Should I just handwash them? On the other hand, I've heard that putting them through the washing machine/spin helps even out the indigo. I don't get it. Why did you go through the trouble of hand-soaking your jeans if you're just going to turn around and wash them? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I thought the idea with STF denim was to soak so you don't have to wash them. What am I missing here? Are you really that concerned about "factory oils and starch?" Sounds like maybe you're over-researched this thing, perhaps?