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Levi's jeans not made in the USA -- isn't this just wrong?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by DaveFromGA, Aug 22, 2008.

  1. DaveFromGA

    DaveFromGA Active Member

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    Is there anyone else out here who thinks that Levi's jeans not being made in the States anymore is just wrong? I'm NOT looking at this from an economic angle, so please, let's not turn this into a debate on the merits of "made in China" vs. "made in USA." What I'm saying is, Levi's is so closely identified with the USA that it just doesn't seem right to have them made anywhere else (I also feel that way about cowboy boots, but that's for another thread), and for me it almost seems sacrilegious to buy the new, non-USA-made jeans.

    Strangely enough, I've always known that major jean brands like Gap, American Eagle, and Abercrombie and Fitch were made in other countries, and it's never really bothered me.
     
  2. djh

    djh Senior member

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    Levi's has been making its jeans outside of the USA for... 30 years now? Maybe longer..

    And if Levis is so closely identified with the USA, what about Lee? Or Wrangler?
     
  3. tagutcow

    tagutcow Senior member

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    As well, the closing of their American factories is concomitant with a nosedive in the quality of all but their premium line.

    I bought a beater pair of jeans off their website for $22 (retail was $70), but I honestly wouldn't have paid $15 for it. The hoodie I bought for the same price is so horrid I can only wear it to the gym or on night walks.
     
  4. Nico Samuel Pleninsek

    Nico Samuel Pleninsek Senior member

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    Levi's has been making its jeans outside of the USA for... 30 years now? Maybe longer..

    And if Levis is so closely identified with the USA, what about Lee? Or Wrangler?


    No, they started closing US factories in the 90's. 30 years ago Levi's were definetly made in the USA.

    I view Levi's now as mostly crap jeans anyways, they are good to wear to school as I couldn't give a damn if they were stolen from my PE locker.

    I believe Wrangler still makes their raw jeans in the USA.
     
  5. djh

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    Really? I was judging by all the vintage Levi's shirts that I've seen in thrift stores. Polyester blends and made in Vietnam.
     
  6. batorizer

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    raw lvc are made in usa. they're the only ones worth buying anyway.
     
  7. Arethusa

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    Is there anyone else out here who thinks that Levi's jeans not being made in the States anymore is just wrong? I'm NOT looking at this from an economic angle, so please, let's not turn this into a debate on the merits of "made in China" vs. "made in USA." What I'm saying is, Levi's is so closely identified with the USA that it just doesn't seem right to have them made anywhere else (I also feel that way about cowboy boots, but that's for another thread), and for me it almost seems sacrilegious to buy the new, non-USA-made jeans.

    Strangely enough, I've always known that major jean brands like Gap, American Eagle, and Abercrombie and Fitch were made in other countries, and it's never really bothered me.

    American cars are made in Mexican maquiladoras with borderline slave labor while Japanese cars are made in America with well paid, non unionised labor. Welcome to globalisation. I suppose it's aesthetically odd, but this is much bigger than jeans. And Levi's suck anyway.
     
  8. kiya

    kiya Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    You have two choices..
    Buy the LVC collection that's made of Cone denim and produced here in America...
    Or buy Sugar Cane's reproductions which are exact repros made of the identical denim and cut and sewn here in America.
     
  9. tagutcow

    tagutcow Senior member

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    I just realized...

    I don't want to freak DaveFromGA out, but he had become a running joke on a regional board I read. One of the board members there was a female who went by the screenname DaVega, and someone had run a Google Images search on the name and had gotten a picture of DaveGA, and we all joked that she was really you.

    Or maybe it was just a whimsical folk etymology, and it's just a coincidence that you have the same name. In any case, I thought it was worth saying.
     
  10. brohymn

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    Most Capital E stuff is made in the USA, or at least that's what the tags say. Capital E still sucks though.
     
  11. Chinook

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    Three weeks ago I was on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation (why American's refer to Aboriginals as Indians is beyond me) and I stumbled upon a trading post. We decided to stop by.. and in the back corner they had a section of blue jeans! Of course, I hurried over and started looking at the STFs. I didn't want a pair.. Just wanted to admire some Levi's.. see if I could find Made in Mexico vs Made in South America and feel the difference.. I noticed a single pair that had a different washing instructions card above the arcs.. The first thing that came to mind was that they were probably Made in USA. So I grabbed them and they felt splendid in comparison to the cheap South American runs.. They were $19.99 and the copyright on the cardboard was 1993.

    /rant.

    They did not fit.. they were 30-34 and that is what I would normally fit.
     
  12. Arethusa

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    (why American's refer to Aboriginals as Indians is beyond me)
    Because we opened up a can of whup ass on them at Wounded Knee.
     
  13. poly800rock

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    honestly, i stopped buying levi's after they stopped US production. If they made USA made jeans, I would KOPP all the time. The old levi's premium line USA is awesome!
     
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    Welcome to globalisation. I suppose it's aesthetically odd, but this is much bigger than jeans. And Levi's suck anyway.
    Wal Mart and Costco have spoiled this country with the stack it high sell it cheap mentality. The soda swilling majority that want as much as they can for each dollar they spend are the root cause of US production heading overseas. Why purchase one pair of well made shoes when you can buy 10 plastic pairs for your fat feet to destroy over the same period.
     
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    ^ Because "consumerism is based on the rapid obsolescence of each form."

    - (product and furniture designer) Enzo Mari
     
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    When a company becomes more about selling a brand name or an image, you can usually kiss domestic production goodbye. The thing is, if our economy gets any worse you might see some of these companies returning home to produce their goods (but don't hold your breath). Check this site out if you're interested in US-produced goods. www.stillmadeinusa.com
     
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  17. ullpaethrwa

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    American companies that forget where their roots are, have just fallen to greed. Someone in a suit and tie became a hero by coming up with a great idea to make big profits by making products cheaper. He has probably forgotten that this country was built by middle class working families (which have become less and less) Funny thing is price of the products has not really fallen to reflect this savings, and we still pay. Until the consumer takes a stand big business will not listen. Either way we pay for this trend, pay a few extra dollars for a pair of jeans or a pair of boots or pay it in taxes to support people who have lost their jobs to this mentality.
    Its a vicious circle though, need to stretch a buck so that $15 pair of jeans at walmart look real good. I hope it's almost time that Americans start realizing that its time to take care of ourselves. REALITY CHECK CHINAS KICKING OUR ASS with our own money. Look where all the massive construction jobs are taking place CHINA. WAKE UP ina couple generations well be making products for china. Hopefully something will change, but it will only happen with the help of everyone.
     
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  18. brad-t

    brad-t Senior member

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    wow this forum used to be way dumber. good job sf
     
  19. ullpaethrwa

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    funny story, went to a super premium clothing outfitter where you would think your paying for quality (Orvis). Saw a beautiful leather jacket $750 guess where its made CHINA. NOT TO MUCH MARKUP ON THAT. If Im going to buy a china leather i want to pay $100
     
  20. burgerkong

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    I don't quite agree with that view, quality of Chinese products have increased exponentially, and so has cost. I really doubt you can get it for $100 now.
     

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