I bought them when the price dropped to $21, it was too good to pass up. I didn't even know they were raw at the time, but I'm pleased to find out from this thread they are. I'm a 32x30 usually but I got these in 31x32 and they were tight at first but fit great now. I haven't been wearing them very hard, but they're already whiskering well. I'll take them for a salt-water swim once summer gets here. About the color, it is very cool. They have a green sheen to them that has gotten me positive comments when I wear them.