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levis 501 vs 501xx

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by GoonerPride, Sep 9, 2006.

  1. GoonerPride

    GoonerPride Active Member

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    What's the difference between the levis shrink to fit 501s and the 501xx?
     
  2. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    the "xx" notation refers to it being shrink to fit (I believe even modern $35 Shrink to fit 501s are tagged as 501xx). But a lot of times when guys talk about 501xx, they are referring to the LVC vintage repros that are made from selvage denim with Big E and redline selvage on the outer seam. The 1947 501xx is the most popular and the most classic.
     
  3. rnrswitch

    rnrswitch Senior member

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    I think you forgot to mention that the 47 is the more cooler and masculine also. Just thought I would correct you on that.
     
  4. dondenim

    dondenim Well-Known Member

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    i think the xx means xtra strength. the denim is basically heavier for durability.
     
  5. Cake

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    It depends on who you talk to, really. Collectors refer to 501XX Levi's as pre' 67 501s with hidden rivets, before the transition to plain 501 models (the transition models) starting from about 1967 without hidden rivets and with the XX designation dropped. 501XX, of course, also refer to vintage repros of the pre-67 models.
     
  6. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Senior member

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    It depends on you talk to, really. Collectors refer to 501XX Levi's as pre' 67 501s with hidden rivets, before the transition to plain 501 models (the transition models) starting from about 1967 without hidden rivets and with the XXX designation dropped. 501XX, of course, also refer to vintage repros of the pre-67 models.
    Puritans!!! [​IMG]
     
  7. Cake

    Cake Well-Known Member

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    i think the xx means xtra strength. the denim is basically heavier for durability.

    The XX designation is historical, the Lot No. 501 was used as early as the 1890s (though not necessarily on a back patch) based on Amoskeag XX 9 oz. denim (based out of New Hampshire). The change to Cone Mills occurred ca. 1915, but the XX designation remained.
     
  8. rnrswitch

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    It depends on who you talk to, really. Collectors refer to 501XX Levi's as pre' 67 501s with hidden rivets, before the transition to plain 501 models (the transition models) starting from about 1967 without hidden rivets and with the XX designation dropped. 501XX, of course, also refer to vintage repros of the pre-67 models.


    If the XX designation was dropped then why do some new STFs still have that printed on the label?
     
  9. cultpop 0217

    cultpop 0217 Senior member

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    i think the xx means xtra strength. the denim is basically heavier for durability.

    the above statement is completely incorrect.
    not to be a jerk but if someone has a question it is really unhelpful to just give a guess. if you dont know dont answer.

    as get smart said it is (and always has been) the designation for denim that is NOT preshrunk.
    same as shrink to fit.
     
  10. rnrswitch

    rnrswitch Senior member

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    i think the xx means xtra strength. the denim is basically heavier for durability.

    I think that is a true statement. I think if XXX rated means xtra xtra dirty porno action, then XX denim means xtra tough. Right?[​IMG]
     
  11. Cake

    Cake Well-Known Member

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    If the XX designation was dropped then why do some new STFs still have that printed on the label?

    That is just a marketing ploy by Levis in the late 80s to distinguish between pre-shrunk and shrink-to-fit denim. Apparently XX == supertough denim. I guess the two horse symbol isn't sufficient.
     
  12. rnrswitch

    rnrswitch Senior member

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    Yeah that two horse pulling on the denim doesn't show strength enough. [​IMG]
     
  13. RedLantern

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    sorry to rez this thread, but I've seen some "NWT" STF on ebay where the "STF" tag on the pocket it there, but he patch just reads "501" rather than "501xx". What gives?
     
  14. ironduke

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    sorry to rez this thread, but I've seen some "NWT" STF on ebay where the "STF" tag on the pocket it there, but he patch just reads "501" rather than "501xx". What gives?

    I think 501 STF means common Levis 501 that made from Mexico and sold in Macy's.
     
  15. RealityChk

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    I have a pair of new with tags new old stock 1990 Levi's 501's. The tag has the definition of the xx on the tag and nowhere on the tag or jeans does it say shrink to fit. It is my guess that somewhere along the line shrink to fit was included on 501's with the xx distinction. This tag that I will post states that xx means "special top weight denim". Its my guess that all 501's that are shrink to fit are xx but not all 501's that are xx are shrink to fit.

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