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Levis 501 new fit

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by intelintel37, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. itsjustadrian

    itsjustadrian Senior member

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    Yeah, I found it odd that there were so many short-inseam STFs. Even in the normal colors I don't remember seeing much over 34.

    Maybe their buyers don't have any idea what STF jean are?

    Typically consumers don't like stacking in their jawnz.
     
  2. otc

    otc Senior member

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    It's not even stacking though...it's normal to sell sizes up to a 34 length for people who are 6' or so (I certainly never have trouble finding them). The problem is that they seem to be selling their normal mix of inseams in a jean where you are supposed to buy it 3 inches too long(according to the tag, not some "SF Best Practices" like sizing stuff down to the point where it doesnt fit so it can stretch)
     
  3. allcapitan

    allcapitan Senior member

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    I finished up with a hot/warm soak of about 2 hours. Hopefully, this will give me a couple inches shrinkage in the inseam, as it's supposed to shrink up to 3". I anticipate some shrinkage in the waist, but it sounds like it will stretch back out to the tagged size. The jeans are just about dried and are stiff as a board right now.
     
  4. allcapitan

    allcapitan Senior member

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    I got a nice 2" of shrinkage in the waist. I didn't measure the inseam previously, but it looks like I got about 2" of shrinkage there too. It'll stack a bit, but I was hoping for a full 3" of shrinkage in the inseam. I wonder if folding the jeans while soaking may have prevented full shrinkage? I soaked for 2 hours in hot/warm water, so it was a good long while...
     
  5. studite

    studite Active Member

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    Can anybody proxy me a KHAKI STF in size 31 waist x 30 length?

    thanks.
     
  6. scotty2

    scotty2 Member

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    Cross posted from post pics of your denim thread.

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  7. scotty2

    scotty2 Member

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    A couple of fit pics.



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  8. allcapitan

    allcapitan Senior member

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    Those look new-ish. How much shrinkage did you get?
     
  9. scotty2

    scotty2 Member

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    Those look new-ish. How much shrinkage did you get?

    well I did a warm soak at first and then I decided hey why not shrink them the max they can so I gave them a hot soak with me not in the jeans. they shrunk like 1 inch in the waist and 2 in the inseam.
     
  10. greg_atlanta

    greg_atlanta Senior member

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    I noticed that the 501 STF made in DR has a blank red tag on the back (no "levi's" lettering), but the 501XX STF made in Mexico had a normal levi's red tag (spelled out). Does this mean anything? Fabric/fit seemed to be the same.

    I had an option of 36x38 501XX or 36x36 501 so I chose the longer inseam.... these probably won't stack as well as my 36x36 511s but it's worth a try (will wear with boots or adidas clamshells).

    XX is insignificant, right?

    Found them at Sears for $46 (not on sale), Macy's was on sale for $36 but max inseam was 34.

    Has anyone used starch behind the knees or near the crotch?
     
  11. BOF

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    The minor variations on the tag are just artifacts of having so many different production facilities. They're all meaningless little quirks.

    I haven't tried starch on them, but found that the creases behind the knees set pretty well after just a couple of days.
     
  12. Pablo-T

    Pablo-T Senior member

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    The minor variations on the tag are just artifacts of having so many different production facilities. They're all meaningless little quirks.


    The variations on the tags are for reasons of trademark. A proportion of the tags have the 'R' symbol wihtout the Levi's lettering to ensure that the red tag in general, as opposed to a red tag with 'Levi's' written on it, remains a Levi's trademark.
     
  13. otc

    otc Senior member

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    I havent tried starch before but I am interested in trying a little bit at the knees/crotch area on my khacki STFs (and maybe on my RRLs which have lost most of their stiffness after 4-5 months)

    Whats the proper way to do this?
     
  14. Wh0l3

    Wh0l3 Active Member

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    So I'm looking to get a nice slim fit without as much taper as the 511. My normal size is a 32 in most jeans should I get a 32 waist? a 31? I have a pair I found at marshalls that are 33x38 but they are just too baggy.
     
  15. sayocean

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    the blank tag is a security measure. I think every 100 pairs just has a blank tag with only an (R)

    I don't see why you would want to starch them, they come with a shitload of starch already and adding more would cause them to tear quickly.



    It has absolutely NOTHING to do with security. How did you come up with that one?

    Pablo T explained it perfectly - the blank tab with just the (R) trademark serves a purpose. When you leave the tab blank, the idea is people will look at the tab purely as a "trademark" device.
     
  16. otc

    otc Senior member

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    It is the same principle as people from Coca Cola going to restaurants that don't serve coke and ordering a coke. If the waiter doesn't say "Is Pepsi OK" and just brings it out, they will do a chemical test to determine if it is actually coke and then use the law to protect their trademark (they are a little more tricky than "Can I have a Coca Cola please"...picture "I'll take a rum and coke and a bottle of bud light and a glass of water"). Levi's wants to keep the red tag as a trademark so that other people cant use it. This requires A: Actually using it themselves and B: Going after people who use it (japanese brands).

    As to the starch, do they actually have a lot? My Khaki STFs were able to stand up by themselves post-soak but after 2 wears were completely soft
     
  17. Cas Ruffin

    Cas Ruffin Senior member

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    I think the old fit was fine. I have some 4 yr old pairs of 501s that still hold up.
     
  18. allcapitan

    allcapitan Senior member

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    Well, based upon my initial pair of 501's, I think 34" inseam is too long for me. I was hoping for 2" of shrinkage down to a 32" which would give me a little bit of stacking, and fit great. However, I got probably more like 1.5" of shrinkage, so that's a bit longer than I had anticipated.

    Therefore, for my next pair, I will try 32" inseams. If I only want to get 1" or so of shrinkage, will I get that with about a 1 hour hot soak? Of should I just try a longer cold soak, say 2 to 3 hours?

    Would love to hear from people who were able to achieve just 1" shrinkage in the inseam.
     
  19. aqhong

    aqhong Senior member

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    ^ A couple more washes/soaks will get 'em down another half inch. I highly doubt you're gonna be able to achieve only 1" of inseam shrinkage with any kind of water contact. And keep in mind shrinkage will vary from pair to pair; it's not an exact science. Honestly, I wouldn't stress about half an inch, but if you don't plan on any more washes/soaks and it bothers you that much, just get them hemmed.
     
  20. allcapitan

    allcapitan Senior member

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    Yeah, but the waist is already so tight, I think that would shrink up along with the inseam, which is why I don't want to do any more soaks (at least not right away).
     

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