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Lets talk about COFFEE

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Flambeur, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    So, the 100% robusta was interesting but my stomach wasn't overly happy with it, plus the flavour is too extreme.

    I'm quite happy with the Espro Press (medium).

    However, when brewing in the Espro Press for 2.5-3 minutes, then filtering it with the CCD, the time it takes to filter the liquid is much longer (1.5-2 minutes instead of 1, if it filters all of it at all). I suppose this is due to the fact the if I brew in the CCD, the grounds--despite stirring--have more time to "settle" to the bottom of the filter. When I pour it out of the espro press, all "particles" are stirred up and have to settle again. Not sure if this explanation is correct.
    I've also tried to prepare it in the Espro Press, plunge it down, then filter the pressed coffee. Doesn't work either. Some coffee drips through, then it stagnates. Probably some physical explanation.

    So, AY, how do you do it?
     
  2. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    sorry, hard to type when i'm drunk. but if any sf member can prove they are a member from their handle? = free coffee. buying a machine and opening by myself. other guy wants old customers...... i want future customers. opening august.
     
  3. b1os

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    ^Is that your best effort when drunk? Uh-oh.
     
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    size 38R Senior member

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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have no idea what you are asking.
     
  6. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    I think he tried to tell us this tale:

    He and his partner (from here on called the other guy) planned on opening a café together. As it turns out, the other guy wants only old customers (?), yet size 38R prefers new customers (?). Hence, they started arguing and in the heat of the argument, size 38R unscrewed the other guy's head ("business partner not has head screwed on"). Thusly, he's opening the café on his own and will buy the coffee machine on his own too. The café will open in August. Any member of SF will get free coffee.
     
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  7. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    That's truly remarkable.
     
  8. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    Truly.

    So, back to my Espro Press/CCD problem. Thoughts?
     
  9. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    something like this....
     
  10. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    It takes about 5 minutes for my CCD to drain once I pour in about 330 mL of liquid into it. Do you like the results?
     
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    So, you let it steep three minutes in the Espro Press, then let it drain for 5 minutes in the CCD, thus the coffee steeps between 3 and 8 minutes?
     
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  12. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    Yes, basically. Most of it is in the cup in a minute or two.
     
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    Starbucks Ethiopia yirgacheffe was a tasty cup, treated myself yesterday. Nicely roasted so that it was not overly bright and acidic like African coffees tend to be. I did get a sense of tart strawberries or cherries like it said in the description or maybe my mind is playing tricks on me.

    Their Casi Cielo makes a pretty good cup as well given it's fairly cheap price compared to gourmet roasters.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I only had the cielo regular brewed. I hated it.
     
  15. b1os

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    I swear to god, brewing coffee is weird. For the past week or so, I wasn't happy with a result once. I used two different coffees, all CCD, all Espro Press, all Aero Press, Espro Press/CCD, different grind sizes etc. to no avail.
    I've had to get a new CCD (v2, looks great) because my old one fell down once to often and leaks a bit now, so today I brewed my first cup with it (Espro Press/CCD) and what can I say, it tastes great. :tinfoil:
     
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    Church. Neither repeatable or predictable.
     
  17. A Y

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    How odd. Maybe the old CCD had residual coffee oils on it that was messing things up? If I'm not lazy, I'll occasionally soak my CCD in an Oxyclean solution. It doesn't get the valve silicone white again, but it does clean up a bunch of things.

    I saw this Sprudge article today, and got some ideas for tweaking this method further: http://sprudge.com/interview-todd-carmichael-north-east-brewers-cup-champ.html



    Highlights:

    - He glues (glues!!!) the Bonavita's temperature base to the kettle so it maintains its heat. I think this is silly because the amount of heat the kettle will lose when you pour the water will be trivial or nothing.

    - He uses 2 cones: a metal cone inside a paper filter. He has 3 candy cane glass rods (you can see this in the video) to suspend the two filters, so that neither one touches each other except at the very top, and the paper filter doesn't touch the Chemex vial.

    - He does full-immersion brewing (steeps it, like us), except in a ceramic cup (not like us, boo!). I think our method is better due to better heat retention, but ceramic's probably not too bad.

    Anyway, I'd like to try a Chemex filter next, moving away from the CCD, though the Chemex looks like a PITA to clean. The double filter method is interesting as it may alleviate your concern above about additional steep time due to draining time. I actually timed what I did this morning, and by about 2 minutes, it's pretty much 90% of the way drained. Unlike Todd, I do not want the last bits of liquid as that tends to be the most bitter.
     
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    I'm not at all sure why I didn't find this thread earlier... Proper coffee snob from the Bay Area here. I'm currently enjoying what might be a top 5 cup of all time from a cafe in The Heights neighborhood in Houston called Boomtown Coffee.

    I've travelled a fair amount, and I'd put this place right up there with Crema (Nashville), Zoka (Seattle), Chromatic (Santa Clara, CA) and Blue Bottle (San Francisco).
     
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  20. PCK1

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    I only drink iced coffee or espresso. Both with no additivies, plain straight up.
     

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