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Lets talk about COFFEE

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Flambeur, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm sick of the roast profile of all of the third wavers. Gimme has even lightened up over the last few years.
     
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    Yeah. Less chocolate more citrus. I'm kind of tired of sour shots too
     
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    I am drinking french press picolo mondo right now and I can't believe the profile compared to ~5 years ago. They are all roasting to trends and losing their identity, imo.
     
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    I want drinking piccolo mondo five years ago so I wouldn't know. To me it's been brighter than leftist
     
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    Maybe it is just the blend. The darker roast has been scaled back or something. I remember getting it where you could visually notice that two differently roasted beans were blended in the bag. Today, not so much, to any casual coffee drinker at least.
     
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    Yeah when you said that I went and checked and didn't really notice a huge variance in roasting profile
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Furthermore they call it a "Medium-Dark" roast. That is laughable. I bet their "French Roast" tastes like a grapefruit.
     
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    Oh, another thing... I bought the picolo mondo this weekend and when you buy beans they give you a free coffee. All I had were hundred dollar bills and they don't accept $100's! I was pissed and this girl already poured the coffee so I felt obligated to go to an ATM to get 20's. That free small coffee turned into $3.75 in ATM fees. I feel like not even homeless people will take $100's from you, they seem to be useless all over New York City.
     
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  9. furo

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    Has anyone ever found a bean to have an espresso flavor that truly matched the aroma (assuming you pulled the god shot)?

    Is it even possible considering that espresso has an inherent bitterness to it?

    What got me thinking was the description for the beans I just bought from CQ coffee roasters:

     
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    What do you mean match? Your nose can't smell everything. Somethings only your tongue tastes
     
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    That description from CQ is pure nonsense. Just drink it, and if you like it, buy more. As for taste fulfilling the promise of smells, I guess that depends. I think of the two as complementary, which they are as one affects the other, and just try to enjoy the whole experience. BTW, all coffee is bitter.

    This sentence is especially facepalmy:

    edit: also, damn PB, you really set Kevin Knox off: http://coffeecontrarian.blogspot.com/2013/07/more-on-freshness-in-response-to.html
     
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    Well it may be, but I bought it based on this review.

    It got a score of 92, so I'm not going to complain about getting those extra 4 ounces. Of course, as you mentioned, none of that will matter if I don't like the taste.
     
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    i subscribe to mistobox and tonx...

    i've noticed mistobox coffees are all way too lightly roasted, all citrus mostly... tonx has been roasting a bit darker than the roasters in mistobox, and i greatly prefer that...
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I find what Kevin says to be interesting regarding roast profiles, brewing methods, and origin. All things I have definitely noticed, however never kind of "put all together".
     
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    Haven't read through the whole thread so no idea if this has been mentioned yet, but I've subscribed to the Tonx service for the last few months. If anyone's wondering about them I'm happy with the bean quality. Good variety and tastes great with a Chemex system. It's a little expensive but conveniently removes thought out of it.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You clearly haven't read two posts back either.
     
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    Fail on two levels: not reading two posts before, and not realizing the guy that's posting is my RL friend who got me into Tonx.
     
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    Sure. I was referring to their nonsensical justification of their roasting style. I wish roasting companies would just tell us what they taste in their coffees instead of florid prose about nothing. Only the last sentence of those two paragraphs really addresses that.

    Also coffee scores aren't like most wine scores (I know you weren't making the comparison) in that it isn't some abstract reflection of a coffee's goodness or how great the reviewer feels after a cup. It's the sum of various aspects of a coffee which tends to give high scores to "interesting" coffees, which are coffees that have a wide and often loud flavor profile. A super acidy, fruit and flower bomb of a coffee will score much higher than one that's a bit more muted, but not everyone will enjoy such a coffee, especially if they're drinking it with food, or if the flavors aren't well balanced.
     
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    I think that is their best coffee. Otherwise, I think Peets is slipping from too much growth. Coffee just tastes burnt now.
     

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