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Lets talk about COFFEE

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Flambeur, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. dreamsburndown

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    Hmm, I was thinking of getting a Hario Skerton because I've had to replace my electric burr grinder a couple times but they're presumably horrible for French press. I guess they only work for medium grind? What kind of grind does an Aero press require? I should probably just try to get a high quality electric grinder.
     
  2. indesertum

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    They're not horrible. They're pretty decent. Just inconsistent at either extreme. Aero press is finer than French press. You want a grind that just gets caught on the filter.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Would the SL28 and SL34 varietals be considered, "GMO"?
     
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    According to http://www.coffeehunter.com/green_coffees/european/kenya , they are hybrids. Hence, I believe, by definition, no GMOs.

    Stumptown says the same.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes, but they didn't occur naturally, they were engineered.
     
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    Crossbreeding doesn't count as GMO. It's just artificial selection. GMO would be like inserting a gene from a different species using viruses or bacteria
     
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    What didn't occur naturally?

    To my understanding, they picked a few different mutations with desirable features and began to crossbreed them in the hopes of breeding a mutation closer to their expectations.

    That's different from GMO, i.e. directly "fiddling" around in the DNA of one mutation while trying to highlight characteristics that come closer to their expectations.
     
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    Hi guys! Im sorry to pop the bubble. Im a newbie and lazy to read back. Anyway, just would like to know if anyone of you tried the Lavazza Coffee? They say its the best Italian coffee... well Im just a bit curious if this Lavazza coffee is the same w/ the arabica coffee? hoping somebody can share some light on this. Thanks.
     
  10. indesertum

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    Lavazza is made of robusta and arabica both. It may be acceptable if you can get it fresh in italy, but anything you buy in the states is probably several months old and will taste pretty stale. find a local coffee roaster that makes something you like instead
     
  11. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Lavazza a doesn't only make robusta blends. They have a lot of offerings. You can get it by the whole bean in properly nitrogen flushed bags. It's good for the traditional Italian espresso, but not as regular brewed coffee, IMO.

    Illy is better than Lavazza, IMO and generally doesn't have the robusta. Cafe Vergnano is probably the better Italian coffee's you can buy in the states (although select places).

    If you like the Italian style coffee, you can't beat nespresso for being the best quality and consistency, honestly.
     
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    Lavazza and Illy are both pretty bad. There are far better alternatives out there for "stronger"/darker espressi. Caffè New York comes to mind. Or half a dozen others you can pick up at a larger Italian supermarket (assuming they are fresh). Many roasters offer Italian blends too.
     
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    woah didn't realize lavazza has an arabica only blend
     
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    I wouldn't call them bad at all. It is just a specific thing. In a commercial setting both Illy and Lavazza invest more in quality control than 95% of the third wavers.
     
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    The Zambia Starbucks Reserve is awesome. For some reason it makes me think of my girlfriend. If you want to have a little taste of my girlfriend, try the Zambia.
     
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    I need a pic of your girlfriend before I take this step.
     
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    She looks like me with longer hair.
     
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    True, we are both weird looking.
     
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