Let's see your weight loss

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  1. willpower

    willpower Senior member

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    Well, OK. But it was never even about willpower in the first place.

    Hey!
     


  2. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    A lack of willpower is not what's causing individuals to be unable to lose weight, nor is it what's causing Americans to suffer from obesity. Granted, some people will have more difficulty with losing weight than others. But this does not imply that it is a lack of willpower that is the determining factor.
    Listen sparky, you don't know shit from shinola when it comes to actual weight loss. I've lost more weight than you have on your body, or probably ever will have. On paper, you might be a quite educated when it comes to breaking it all down. In the real world, when you're standing in front of an open fridge and you can't bring yourself to close it because that last bit of leftovers is staring you in the face, and you realize that you've been standing there for 5 minutes despite your desire to close the door, then you'll know how important willpower is. IT IS PARAMOUNT. This cannot be understated. Without the willpower to keep from eating, any plan, no matter how well thought out and constructed, will go to complete shit. Period.
     


  3. HgaleK

    HgaleK Senior member

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    You know very little about much of anything.
    FTFY
    He doesn't even have this. It's much closer to a wikipedia eduction + a few conveniently interpreted journals. Even if he has looked further in to what he talks about, he misunderstands much of it.
     


  4. mm84321

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    Listen sparky, you don't know shit from shinola when it comes to actual weight loss. I've lost more weight than you have on your body, or probably ever will have. On paper, you might be a quite educated when it comes to breaking it all down. In the real world, when you're standing in front of an open fridge and you can't bring yourself to close it because that last bit of leftovers is staring you in the face, and you realize that you've been standing there for 5 minutes despite your desire to close the door, then you'll know how important willpower is. IT IS PARAMOUNT. This cannot be understated. Without the willpower to keep from eating, any plan, no matter how well thought out and constructed, will go to complete shit. Period.

    I understand what you are saying--completely. What I am saying is that a lack of willpower isn't what's causing someone to be unable to resist raiding the refrigerator at night. It is not because they don't possess self control, or that they are a glutton and a sloth, but rather because of certain biological (and to a degree, behavioral) factors that drives one to over-consume, and to crave specific foods that are uniquely fattening and inhibitory of any desired weight-loss effect.
     


  5. mm84321

    mm84321 Senior member

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    FTFY



    He doesn't even have this. It's much closer to a wikipedia eduction + a few conveniently interpreted journals. Even if he has looked further in to what he talks about, he misunderstands much of it.


    You really need to remove the stick out of your ass.
     


  6. HgaleK

    HgaleK Senior member

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    Whoops double post
     


  7. HgaleK

    HgaleK Senior member

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    Er oh Er

    Read the above statement again.

    Lol

    I dig being self taught. It's some good fucking bull. You should just have some idea of what you're talking about when you speak about it. Your local library has books on OChem and BioChem I bet. Otherwise there's Khan Academy (free online) which will cover OChem and intro to Bio and then you can examine things like metabolic pathways, genetics, etc.
     


  8. mm84321

    mm84321 Senior member

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    Er oh Er

    Read the above statement again.

    Lol



    I dig being self taught. It's some good fucking bull. You should just have some idea of what you're talking about when you speak about it. Your local library has books on OChem and BioChem I bet. Otherwise there's Khan Academy (free online) which will cover OChem and intro to Bio and then you can examine things like metabolic pathways, genetics, etc.


    Feel free to counter my arguments at any time.
     


  9. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    I understand what you are saying--completely. What I am saying is that a lack of willpower isn't what's causing someone to be unable to resist raiding the refrigerator at night. It is not because they don't possess self control, or that they are a glutton and a sloth, but rather because of certain biological (and to a degree, behavioral) factors that drives one to over-consume, and to crave specific foods that are uniquely fattening and inhibitory of any desired weight-loss effect.

    isnt this what people call lack of willpower?

    your body might be asking you for food, but it's called will power when you say no.
     


  10. mm84321

    mm84321 Senior member

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    isnt this what people call lack of willpower?

    Willpower mustn't be confused with behavioral disorders or addictions. The lack of will is not the cause of these manifestations, but merely a symptom. It is not what's driving one to abuse food, or to be unable to stick to a diet. In this case, the problem lies much deeper.

    That's called starvation.
     


  11. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    You're splitting hairs to avoid being wrong. Stop it.
     


  12. mm84321

    mm84321 Senior member

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    You're splitting hairs to avoid being wrong. Stop it.
    I don't believe I was splitting any hairs. Then again, I could be wrong. I just am pretty sure that I'm not.
     


  13. HgaleK

    HgaleK Senior member

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    I don't believe I was splitting any hairs. Then again, I could be wrong. I just am pretty sure that I'm not.

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    mm84321 Senior member

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    What is your problem with that statement? You've quoted it twice now without once actually articulating your thoughts on it.
     


  15. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    It's not an issue of behavior, it's just an issue of behavior. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Not sure though.
     


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