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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by softy, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. softy

    softy Senior member

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    I'll play. Brands we should talk about more: Jun Hashimoto Lounge Lizard halb MA+ Nicolo Ceschi Berrini Dries van Noten (yet, we talk about MMM all of the time. Behold the power of Diesel group.)
    We definitely should talk about NCB more. You down with NCB yeah you know me
    Could be a thread of it's own! I wouldn't mind hearing some suggestions.
    Like I said above, 16/20
     
  2. robbie

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    1. Hermes has a new store. Doesn't it look cozy? I don't know about the tiled floor, though. I think a thick-pile rug would work better with all of this plush furniture and wood tones. Rare is the department store that invites you to relax on a pile rug.

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    this certainly needs a nice rug.
     
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    Brands we should talk about more: 45 RPM Kapital Nonnative Final Home
    [​IMG] ...an original
     
  4. Synthese

    Synthese Darth Millennial Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    I would like to talk more about the pants tucked into socks into boots. I have been planning on doing this as soon as a) I buy some smartwool and b) as soon as it's cold enough.

    I would also like to talk more about the ineffable style of Petar Petrov, and whether "dressing one's age" is even a real thing.

    Additionally, I would request that we do not talk about raf simons or anything related to tron, because although it is awesome, I am already so close to the edge that I'm not sure I can handle it anymore.

    But please, as per softy's other thread idea that should have come to immaculate fruition but didn't:

    Can we talk about things that are technically not shirts that we can wear as shirts or in place of shirts, and the styling thereof?
     
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    softy Senior member

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    Thank you for this excellent contribution, Synthese.
    I was remiss in not making that much talked about thread.

    So basically the idea is, what do we do when we want to wear something that is neither a button-down (button-up, side-button, fencing placket) shirt, but neither a short-sleeved tee-shirt? Let's knuckle down and discuss options that are somewhere in between. A button-down is in many cases too structured and constricting to be truly enjoyable, plus it is just the obvious go-to choice. It lacks in the creative freedom that women have in wearing tops. A tee-shirt, on the other hand, is an excess of sloppiness, and besides that there aren't very many good ones.

    So what is one to do? Tanktops? I'm all for it. Henleys? Also interesting. What are some alternatives that fit this middle ground? Be specific, not general! I had a conversation with BB1 about elegantly-draping long-sleeve tees by Lad Musician. Robert Geller Seconds also seems to be an interesting concept.

    Something that is knit or made out of jersey makes for a much more anatomical fit. I'm strongly in favor of wearing knitwear "naked" -- that is, with nothing else underneath save maybe a discreet undershirt for hygienic reasons.

    I dunno, take it from here. I briefly owned an Agnes B silk henley in a wheat color that was pretty stellar.

    In sum, throw off the shackles of button-down straitjackets!!
     
  6. softy

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    I also wanted to add that The Choosy Beggar has really gone downhill. Or has my taste changed? It seems to be littered with generic NYC Steven Alan style stuff and pseudo-advertisements these days. It used to really wet my whistle when he'd post missives about the Ervell sample sales and so on
    I would also like to talk more about the ineffable style of Petar Petrov, and whether "dressing one's age" is even a real thing.
    I dunno, don't you think there's something to be said for aging gracefully? You get your kicks in when young and pop out in all directions, try some blue DBSS sneakers, etc., etc., but there is intense beauty in restraint. Being inscrutably "shibui" can approach levels of sublimity. The thing about the full-on MC steeze guys is that they are unaware how much they seem like doddering old codgers in their bowties and tweeds and such. You can transition to what is formally known as "menswear" (i.e., not jeans and sneakers) while injecting a spirit of playfulness. Don't you think that in that sense, Schneider, Petrov, Marni, and Kim Jones' redo of Dunhill play to that? (Although per the lookbook styling, Marni is more of a late 20s cosmopolitan playboy thing -- they should do away with the extreme tapered pants, imo). Anyway, isn't this what our forum deity, berlin report, does when he wears a playfully colorful shirt and a terrier lapel pin? You can be anchored in menswear and still be playful without needing to run in the direction of rhinestone-encrusted hi-tops. At the very least, everyday people on the street will relate to you more. Although Petrov seems to like to throw the baby out with the bathwater and go from ineffably charming dandelion-plucking Spring/Summer style to leather zips Acne style in Fall. Someone on SuFu I was talking to had something to say about this. I will find his message later, but he said that Petrov is at his best when he is "showing you his blue/orange herringbone penis." I think that young SWD thing is about being inscrutable (not understatedly so, but unique and without precedent) and at the same time brash. When you transition, you fundamentally want to have pleasant experiences with other people, so doing something that is a hot fireball of uniqueness may seem to lack, you know, cultural currency. Kunk would disagree, though.
     
  7. Synthese

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    Personally, I find the idea of "wraps" very appealing - shirt-length Jedi robes, if you will, that fasten around the middle and drape nicely, and don't give you that nasty feeling of being all up in your armpits. Kimono sleeves are quite a fun though, as well.

    Silk is something else that I find intriguing - as in, covering oneself in it. Additionally, a sleeveless fur vest would be excellent with either white or black pants and slim boots.

    Also: why do people wear pyjamas?
     
  8. Nouveau Pauvre

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    Personally, I find the idea of "wraps" very appealing - shirt-length Jedi robes, if you will, that fasten around the middle and drape nicely, and don't give you that nasty feeling of being all up in your armpits. Kimono sleeves are quite a fun though, as well.

    Silk is something else that I find intriguing - as in, covering oneself in it. Additionally, a sleeveless fur vest would be excellent with either white or black pants and slim boots.

    Also: why do people wear pyjamas?


    Rick Owens does everything you jsut listed incredibly well.
     
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    Also: why do people wear pyjamas?


    Plaid pajama pants and henley is my official "not going out tonight" uniform.
     
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    Plaid pajama pants and henley is my official "not going out tonight" uniform.

    Is that when you stay in with some ben & jerries and the notebook on blu ray sweetheart?
     
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    Wow, many posts. I edited mine so SCROLL UP PLS thanks.
     
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    Rick Owens does everything you jsut listed incredibly well.
    Yes, but I don't want to talk about him. I would have said Ann D, though, who I also don't want to talk about. Really, I'm imagining caveman glam - loose trousers, shirtless under a mottled fur vest, maybe some floppy boots... You're not going to get over those Blue DBSS sneakers, are you? I guess the only things I'm not sure about is whether it's restraint at all, whether restraint is worth it, and whether age has anything to do with it, which maybe you said it doesn't. I didn't really pay attention.
     
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    Yes, but I don't want to talk about him. I would have said Ann D, though, who I also don't want to talk about.

    Really, I'm imagining caveman glam - loose trousers, shirtless under a mottled fur vest, maybe some floppy boots...


    Jeremy Scott does everything you jsut listed incredibly well.
     
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    re: shirt substitutions I am guessing this will be more something I might try when we get back to spring but I like the idea of wearing a lightweight cardi with nothing underneath. the neck opening conceivably would have to be more shallow I think.
     
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    Is that when you stay in with some ben & jerries and the notebook on blu ray sweetheart?

    You're the guy with the purse, right?

    Seriously though, pajamas are comfortable, and when they're a gift you kind of have to wear them.
     
  17. Synthese

    Synthese Darth Millennial Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Jeremy Scott does everything you jsut listed incredibly well.
    So does Hansel
    You're the guy with the purse, right? Seriously though, pajamas are comfortable, and when they're a gift you kind of have to wear them.
    I don't want bare bodkin to be able to talk about anything
     
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    Please read the OP. Bare Bodkin is on the list of verboten topics.
     
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    Please read the OP. Bare Bodkin is on the list of verboten topics.

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    Also: why do people wear pyjamas?

    It must have to do with body image issues. I guess since you are such a hunk of burning whatever, that you get horny PMs from people, that you just sleep in some kind of tanktop and undershorts.
     

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