Leonard Logsdail suit (with pictures)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by GITU, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. Len

    Len Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Without knowledge of the commission, I hold you to a higher standard, too!

    And, with respect, my business model for this product is my business. I wonder what business would last if definitive comments were made on one early product. Perhaps yours is. I know mine would not have. I'm still learning after 42 years.
     


  2. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    an epic disaster if i've ever seen one.
     


  3. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    +1
     


  4. Israel Gow

    Israel Gow New Member

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    No offense intended, neither to the unfortunate GITU nor to Len - but while I am no expert on fine tailoring, it seems quite a catastrophe.


    But of course you could set a few things straight if you wanted. Some obvious shortcoming of the suit were mentioned and seemed to be agreed about by many. So do you have some specific comments which could enhance the discussion?



    What you're saying, essentially, is that the customer commissioned the suit like that. Is that it?


    Now that's a cheap shot. I mean, this *is* an internet forum, people *are* behind their computers when posting. Instead of evading the factual questions raised I would welcome your participation in the discussion. Maybe there's something in it to learn for everyone here...
     


  5. mezentius

    mezentius Senior member

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    A bit surprised no-one has said the obvious - this customer should have gone bespoke; surely even the best MTM programmes cannot deal with his idiosyncracies?

    Then again, Len probably should have informed his customer about this to being with.
     


  6. manchambo

    manchambo Senior member

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    I agree completely, particularly with the last point. We all are sitting behind computer screens, and Len's defense requires no more bravery, or supporting evidence, than the criticisms.

    From the evidence presented here (the photos) I think two things are clear (i) the suit fits poorly, and (ii) the OP has a build that would be extremely difficult to accommodate in MTM. It seems that Len has hinted there are other issues related to the commission that lead to the result, but it would be interesting to know what they are, and in particular to hear a professional's thoughts on fitting difficult to fit individuals. I don't mean that as a challenge, but rather an invitation to what could be interesting and helpful information from a professional.
     


  7. mack11211

    mack11211 Senior member

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    One odd thing so far is that Len Jr is the man behind the suit, but Len Sr is the only one posting.
     


  8. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    This would be a great time for David Reeves to offer to make an MTM suit for the OP and see if he can do better. Len's already put himself out there for criticism (well, really, his client did), so now David could show how off his own chops.
    Also, the OP should participate on Foo's apartment furnishing thread
     


  9. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have seen a lot worse.
    This is a larger man. though I have made a shirt for him, i have no clue as too who he is.

    larger men present an entirely different set of problems then someone who is over muscled or want s super fitted suit.

    My eye is drawn to the collar pulling away at the neck and the gaping at the chest.
    It might just need to pull the collar up higher on his neck.
    the deeper armhole on the suit allows the jacket to shift around.

    what concerns me the most is the bear on the wall wearing the tie!!!
     


  10. clee1982

    clee1982 Senior member

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    this is semi entertaining, not as funny as the old shirt thread though..
     


  11. manchambo

    manchambo Senior member

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    The bear certainly has better taste in ties than OP.
     


  12. chinesealpha

    chinesealpha Senior member

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    This thread makes me happy I'm not a tailor.
     


  13. David Reeves

    David Reeves Affiliate Vendor Affiliate Vendor

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    You bet I will take that challenge, but someone has to cover the cost of the suit. David Reeves MTM starts at $1500



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  14. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Ask your marketing department. They should be able to front you the cash. So long as you avoid divots, you'll make it up on the back end.
     


  15. David Reeves

    David Reeves Affiliate Vendor Affiliate Vendor

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    Marketing would seem to agree with you.....

    Since your interested to see though, this is how I fit a larger build:

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    This man is 6.4 tall and a size 54 chest (thats inches not European sizing)

    Now I will admit this is not a perfect jacket, (it is not actually finished yet, you are seeing the forward fitting which is why there are no buttons). but it is clean and has shape.

    After this fitting I cleaned up the sleeves and released the front a touch. The jacket is rather short but this is what the client wanted, even so on the whole I think it works. I also made the trousers. I shot this on an iphone 3 outside of the clients apt so its not staged and its not photoshopped or anything. I wanted to put something like this in another thread but since I was called out, I thought I would show you what I could do. I am sure I have done better and I am sure people will find fault and maybe better examples, but in fairness I think these shots do demonstrate that an English style fitted coat can work on a man with a large build.
     


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