It's taken me a couple of days but I have now waded through every post in this thread - fantastic stuff and always amazed at what you find on SF. Thanks you Lefty, Jlib and the others who have kept this thing rolling along so nicely. I come from a gun dog background in the UK and have mainly had labs/springers as well as hunt terrier and Border terriers too. Hunt terrier was my first, came from working background of Patterdale sire and Jack bitch. She was worked with the hunt before fox hunting was 'banned.' Died aged 19 4 years ago. I'll find a picture but she was the best dog I've ever had although perhaps a little too much black in her coat to be the perfect ground dog. I am now looking forward to getting my new yellow lab (I want yellow but depends on litter). No special background, but if her parents are anything to go by she should be excellent behind the gun and driving up. very much looking forward to starting the training, I just wish I could give it the opportunity to work like its parents but this will be a house dog. I still cannot wait! I am sure I will be asking many training questions when the time comes. Noticed not a lot of love for springers on the thread. Some of the best gun dogs I've ever known have been springers, although they are crazy bastards sometimes.