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Leaving Napoli soon- what to bring back??

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by AmericanGent, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. AmericanGent

    AmericanGent Senior member

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    Hello all, I have been living in Napoli for almost 3 years now, but my time is winding down and I will be returning to the States this spring.

    I'm considering a business venture, so I wanted to know if you all had any ideas about what sort of Neapolitan things might be desirable in the US. I am moving my household goods so I can add anything to my shipment and bring it over free of shipping restrictions and cost, so I could bring back 100 pair of shoes from Meccariello or 1000 ties from E. G. Cappelli and sell them for a modest profit.

    Any suggestions from folks who desire items they can't get?

    I appreciate your input!

    AmericanGent
     
  2. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Set up a partnership with some competent, but not that well-known and reasonably priced, Neapolitan bespoke tailors and shirtmakers - act as their U.S. agent, organize regular trunk shows in NYC (2-3x / yr) and mark-up their Neapolitan prices by 20-30%, keeping the profit for yourself.

    Your role will essentially be confined to organizing the visits, acting as the American intermediary, and ensuring that the makers supply finished goods in a timely fashion.
     
  3. jerrybrowne

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    E. Marinella and E.G. Cappeli ties and Carlo Barbera RIVA shirt fabric in 2 4 meter cut lengths. Pick conservative colors (or allow people to pick specific style numbers) I'd be your first customer for the shirting.
     
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  4. johanm

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    +1 - I like the idea of selling cut shirt lengths. Riva, Bonfanti?
     
  5. jerrybrowne

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    Bonfanti is great stuff, although they sell direct. Riva is just impossible to get in the states without being grossly overcharged.
     
  6. AmericanGent

    AmericanGent Senior member

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    This is a great idea, and I know that others are doing this sort of thing. I have met a few small time local tailors here, still working on it!

    Thanks JB-
    I see that Cappeli ties are available online, how is the availability for Marinella ties? What is pricing like?
    I love Riva fabric- How are the prices there per meter?
    I think I might actually have a line on some Carlo Barbera at wholesale prices- I'll have to investigate it further.

    Would selling via SF be best or would it be wise to set-up my own site and accept Pay Pal?
    I'm not much of an entrepreneur.
     
  7. TRINI

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    I'd also include fabrics from Caccioppoli as they're not readily available for purchase outside of Napoli.
     
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    I wasn't aware that CB even made shirting. Do you mean suiting? If not,,have you seen or used the stuff yourself? If so, what are your impressions? Do you know how to source it?
     
  9. jerrybrowne

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    Sorry, I meant Carlo Riva (I've fixed the error above).
     
  10. AmericanGent

    AmericanGent Senior member

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    I knew what you meant! Is CB hard to get back home?
     
  11. Sabutai

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    This can be purchased on Ebay fwiw.
     
  12. gopherblue

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    Riva shirting. Carlo Barbera fabric.

    But most importantly, da Michele pizza.
     
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  13. jerrybrowne

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    Here is a guide for Riva shirting. This is the only place I know of in the US that sells.

    http://asuitablewardrobe.gostorego.com/clothing/shirting/carlo-riva-lino-arsenal-shirting.html

    Basically $49 per half meter, and since these are 90 cm wide they require 3.5 meters or $343 for a shirt. Only comes in blue or white. Nice though.

    Carlo Barbera at wholesale prices would also be nice as it is also hard to find in the US.

    You should PM some of the folks that started their ecommerce sites on SF. They would tell you what the pros and cons are.
     
  14. Grammaton Cleric

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    ^ Your math is incorrect. What Will refers to as a 'half-meter' corresponds to the 90cm width (as opposed to the standard 150cm). You need only 3m for a shirt, unless you're unusually large - that equates to $147.

    Not cheap, but certainly not as astronomical as your calc.
     
  15. jerrybrowne

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    This is what his website says;


    " Renowned for its lightness, breathability and subdued character, Carlo Riva shirting is the principal offering of the best Italian shirtmakers (including Kiton, Mimmo Siviglia and Anna Matuozzo) but very difficult to find in North America.

    A mix of 60% linen and 40% Egyptian Ginza cotton and linen, Carlo Riva's Lino Arsenal is lightly textured, feels like voile without the transparency, presses beautifully, resists wrinkles and lasts for many years without sign of wear. It is not inexpensive but will provide pleasure for many years to come.

    Hand wash or cold water machine wash on the delicate cycle and hang dry.

    Offered by the half meter, three meters of this 90 cm wide cloth is required for a shirt (large men, or shirts with patch pockets may require 3.5 meters - please check with your shirtmaker)."

    So even if you only needed 3 meters wouldn't that be $49 X 6 = $294 (there are 6 half-meters in 3 meters)?
     
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  16. poorsod

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    Personally if I were in Naples I'd be looking for dead stock fabric. I recall seeing discontinued Scabal Shetland at Argenio. I'd love to see if I could find old Wodehouse or other discontinued cloths. OTOH you kinda need to know what to look for.

    I'm not sure if Carlo Barbera sells to the public now they have been bought by Kiton. It would be nice to find some deadstock.
     
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  17. jerrybrowne

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    This is a great idea. Gianni Cerutti was able to find some scabal shetland for me that is fantastic. I would also be interested in sport coat lengths of this stuff, and old stock Barbera.
     
  18. AmericanGent

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    Great stuff guys- thanks for your input!
     
  19. TRINI

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    Link to seller?
     
  20. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    Depends on what you want to do, as the ideas proposed are quite different:

    1. High Upfront Cost / One-Time Shot / Logistically Easy– buy fabrics
    2. Low Upfront Cost / Recurring Business / Logistically Tough – partner up with a traveler tailor / shirtmaker

    I like option 2, but it depends on your risk / commitment preferences
     
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