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looks a bit feminine , i think it's the light hide and lack of accoutrement to hold it down (belt etc)

i think it does fit and would work fine with a different philosophical style .

the untucked shirt bothers me to no end . given the rest of the fit i'd rather see like a washed perfecto .

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another leather jacket attempt - schott lightweight - thoughts on the fit? Feels a bit like the armpit is cut too low

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It’s one of their more fashion jackets so it has the lower armhole. For a higher armhole and better arm motion, without having to go for a stiff riding leather, you may be better served by a 519 (a soft variant of the 613). However, it’s basically a completely different jacket so it’s sort of irrelevant to the discussion, and it will be similarly big at the hem.

I think your best option with similar styling would be the Aero Bootlegger, also available in a slim variant.

The non slim version is a flattering cut too (if you’ve watched Captain America: The First Avenger, it’s the leather jacket he wears. They switched out one of the pocket types, but Thurston can spec the Cap pocket arrangement if you prefer it.) The straps let you nip the waist without making the design busy in the way a belt does. Unfortunately, the wardrobe department went overboard on distressing, but you can still see what the leather and cut are like.
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I do not want to offend anyone. For my taste it does not fit.
The cuffs are too wide and the hem as well. I think with short jackets the hem needs to be tight. But I'm not sure if the jacket would be better if those two issues were fixed.
Is there something about the jacket itself that you don’t like regardless of fit on me?
I didn’t really expect schott to fit me (this is my 4th attempt at different models/sizes) but just wanted to get a feel for the DR style and what might work.
 

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Is there something about the jacket itself that you don’t like regardless of fit on me?
I didn’t really expect schott to fit me (this is my 4th attempt at different models/sizes) but just wanted to get a feel for the DR style and what might work.
I'd send Carrie (at Thurston Bros) an email about the Bootlegger, with pics of your Schott above attached (as a reference; Thurston used to be a Schott dealer as well, and even co-developed some jackets I believe, so they know those patterns well), and notes about what you're looking for in terms of fit.

Their process entails sending you a stock jacket first, which you can keep if you like or send back (after taking pictures in it) for her to build out which adjustments you'd need for a good fit and to place an order accordingly.

I have a Thurston order on the way myself.
 

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Is there something about the jacket itself that you don’t like regardless of fit on me?
I didn’t really expect schott to fit me (this is my 4th attempt at different models/sizes) but just wanted to get a feel for the DR style and what might work.
A good question, which I unfortunately can not answer. Maybe it's because of how the jacket falls or maybe it's because of the photos. It seems somehow too flimsy for me. I know this from previous jackets (fabric), which fit in principle, but in some places just not. And that has then destroyed the proportions. I have a denim jacket that fits, but doesn't look good, even though I had it tightened at the waist. Sleeves too wide, a tad too short, body too long, Fabric too unstable and that was it. Not every pattern suits me. And that's just how I feel about this jacket.
 

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Some background on this suggestion for anyone who might accidentally heed it:

Understatesman said:
Try the 613UST model. It's slim and tall.
The UST (T for 'tall'– in the Japanese market), while certainly (overly) slim, is not 'tall' by any stretch of the imagination. The largest size (a 42, which is only 41 inches around) has the back length of the equivalent jacket in the US… in size 32. The chest matches that of Schott's slimmest fashion cross zip… in XS.

You could literally not even get it around your body if your measurements matched the tagged size, and even if you sized 'up' you would have trouble moving.

They make the same pattern type, without ridiculous size grading, in the US as the 613S/613SH/519.

However, this is not at all the type of jacket Lux is looking for, besides the brand name. I'm just putting this information out there as a warning for someone about to take the above advice.
 

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Some background on this suggestion for anyone who might accidentally heed it:



The UST (T for 'tall'– in the Japanese market), while certainly (overly) slim, is not 'tall' by any stretch of the imagination. The largest size (a 42, which is only 41 inches around) has the back length of the equivalent jacket in the US… in size 32. The chest matches that of Schott's slimmest fashion cross zip… in XS.

You could literally not even get it around your body if your measurements matched the tagged size, and even if you sized 'up' you would have trouble moving.

They make the same pattern type, without ridiculous size grading, in the US as the 613S/613SH/519.

However, this is not at all the type of jacket Lux is looking for, besides the brand name. I'm just putting this information out there as a warning for someone about to take the above advice.
These two Schotts I got (a Neighborhood x Schott DR in size 38, and a Schott x Journal Standard in size 40) are Japanese 613 models, but tweaked to remove the epaulets, belt, change the lining, or some other minor cosmetic changes. Surely they are Japanese sized. So the 613UST would have these dimensions only with a longer body.

And yes, I could zip up the size 40. But I know I need a size 42.

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Also, direct from Schott: The 519 has a back length of 27", the 613S is 25".
 
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