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I went to Self Edge in NYC yesterday and tried the FCL James (size 40). It was a great experience.

James is the spring/summer iteration. Shinki horsehide is buttery smooth. Shop owner told me it is 1.3mm, but the jacket is light, to the extent that it feels like thin lamb leather used by fashion houses. The leather has very even and smooth grains. Upon a closer look, the leather feels dense but not stiff. It feels like this jacket can handle some serious beatings and age well (tea core btw). Most horse leather I've seen goes to two directions: either thick and grainy (like Aero) or thick and smooth/shiny. This medium/light weight horse leather has that sheen that really catches me.

It was very comfortable to wear due to the softness of the leather. At size 40 my movements are limited when fully zipped, but I would wear this jacket open at 95% times. Jacket at this thickness I only want to wear it with a Tshirt. With ~20 min of trying it on the sleeves already starting to develop folds. I did't crunch or pushup to further test the effects.

Here are me wearing them

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Some detailed shots of the leather texture
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Here comes the sad part. This jacket is marked at 1950 USD, quite a steep price. On FCL Japan website it is listed 143000 JPY, about 1300 USD. Shop owner told me the increase in price is mostly due to import duty, shipping, and plus this jacket is Self Edge's made-to-order version. The Japanese version would have different types (I think he wants to say "batches") of leather. I've been searching for a slim fitting flip collar jacket for a long time and finally I've found THE ONE. For me dropping 2k is a bit above the limit. I would happily buy this jacket at 1400 or 1500. Or... I might just go nuts and buy it. Let me chill and think :slapfight:

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I went to Self Edge in NYC yesterday and tried the FCL James (size 40). It was a great experience.

James is the spring/summer iteration. Shinki horsehide is buttery smooth. Shop owner told me it is 1.3mm, but the jacket is light, to the extent that it feels like thin lamb leather used by fashion houses. The leather has very even and smooth grains. Upon a closer look, the leather feels dense but not stiff. It feels like this jacket can handle some serious beatings and age well (tea core btw). Most horse leather I've seen goes to two directions: either thick and grainy (like Aero) or thick and smooth/shiny. This medium/light weight horse leather has that sheen that really catches me.

It was very comfortable to wear due to the softness of the leather. At size 40 my movements are limited when fully zipped, but I would wear this jacket open at 95% times. Jacket at this thickness I only want to wear it with a Tshirt. With ~20 min of trying it on the sleeves already starting to develop folds. I did't crunch or pushup to further test the effects.

Here are me wearing them

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Some detailed shots of the leather texture
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Here comes the sad part. This jacket is marked at 1950 USD, quite a steep price. On FCL Japan website it is listed 143000 JPY, about 1300 USD. Shop owner told me the increase in price is mostly due to import duty, shipping, and plus this jacket is Self Edge's made-to-order version. The Japanese version would have different types (I think he wants to say "batches") of leather. I've been searching for a slim fitting flip collar jacket for a long time and finally I've found THE ONE. For me dropping 2k is a bit above the limit. I would happily buy this jacket at 1400 or 1500. Or... I might just go nuts and buy it. Let me chill and think :slapfight:

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Sure fits you well.
 

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I went to Self Edge in NYC yesterday and tried the FCL James (size 40). It was a great experience.

James is the spring/summer iteration. Shinki horsehide is buttery smooth. Shop owner told me it is 1.3mm, but the jacket is light, to the extent that it feels like thin lamb leather used by fashion houses. The leather has very even and smooth grains. Upon a closer look, the leather feels dense but not stiff. It feels like this jacket can handle some serious beatings and age well (tea core btw). Most horse leather I've seen goes to two directions: either thick and grainy (like Aero) or thick and smooth/shiny. This medium/light weight horse leather has that sheen that really catches me.

It was very comfortable to wear due to the softness of the leather. At size 40 my movements are limited when fully zipped, but I would wear this jacket open at 95% times. Jacket at this thickness I only want to wear it with a Tshirt. With ~20 min of trying it on the sleeves already starting to develop folds. I did't crunch or pushup to further test the effects.

Here are me wearing them

View attachment 1321424
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Some detailed shots of the leather texture
View attachment 1321426
View attachment 1321427

Here comes the sad part. This jacket is marked at 1950 USD, quite a steep price. On FCL Japan website it is listed 143000 JPY, about 1300 USD. Shop owner told me the increase in price is mostly due to import duty, shipping, and plus this jacket is Self Edge's made-to-order version. The Japanese version would have different types (I think he wants to say "batches") of leather. I've been searching for a slim fitting flip collar jacket for a long time and finally I've found THE ONE. For me dropping 2k is a bit above the limit. I would happily buy this jacket at 1400 or 1500. Or... I might just go nuts and buy it. Let me chill and think :slapfight:

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Honestly, if you're willing to drop $1400 on "the one," is $2000 that far out of the question that you wouldn't regret it later if it was gone and you no longer had the opportunity? I'm not being philosophical, it might be too big a jump for you, but thought /I'd ask. I think it looks good, though maybe missing a bit of that FCL patented grain mismatch, if you like that. Reminds me of the Himel x Bryceland's collab:

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PS - Is any horsehide actually "buttery smooth," and since when did everyone start listing "buttery smooth" or "buttery soft" as one of the primary descriptors of good leather? I've always associated it with lambskin, which makes sense, but every time I see a review or feedback about any leather jackets anywhere it seems "buttery" is front and center, as if a baby's butt was a blanket litmus test for leather grade.
 

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Here comes the sad part. This jacket is marked at 1950 USD, quite a steep price. On FCL Japan website it is listed 143000 JPY, about 1300 USD. Shop owner told me the increase in price is mostly due to import duty, shipping, and plus this jacket is Self Edge's made-to-order version. The Japanese version would have different types (I think he wants to say "batches") of leather. I've been searching for a slim fitting flip collar jacket for a long time and finally I've found THE ONE. For me dropping 2k is a bit above the limit. I would happily buy this jacket at 1400 or 1500. Or... I might just go nuts and buy it. Let me chill and think :slapfight:
 

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Honestly, if you're willing to drop $1400 on "the one," is $2000 that far out of the question that you wouldn't regret it later if it was gone and you no longer had the opportunity? I'm not being philosophical, it might be too big a jump for you, but thought /I'd ask. I think it looks good, though maybe missing a bit of that FCL patented grain mismatch, if you like that. Reminds me of the Himel x Bryceland's collab:
Maybe I should not have looked up the price in Japan, you know?
 

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Maybe I should not have looked up the price in Japan, you know?
Once I look up a price for Japanese products in Japan I have a hard time letting go of that myself, but US stores importing those products take on extra costs as they've explained as well. Those costs are offset to you somewhat by offloading the burden of risk you would normally take in buying something from Japan via proxy and having it sent to you overseas.

But it is a lot of money.
 

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Once I look up a price for Japanese products in Japan I have a hard time letting go of that myself, but US stores importing those products take on extra costs as they've explained as well. Those costs are offset to you somewhat by offloading the burden of risk you would normally take in buying something from Japan via proxy and having it sent to you overseas.

But it is a lot of money.
Just get somebody to bring it back from japan for you.
 

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I went to Self Edge in NYC yesterday and tried the FCL James (size 40). It was a great experience.

James is the spring/summer iteration. Shinki horsehide is buttery smooth. Shop owner told me it is 1.3mm, but the jacket is light, to the extent that it feels like thin lamb leather used by fashion houses. The leather has very even and smooth grains. Upon a closer look, the leather feels dense but not stiff. It feels like this jacket can handle some serious beatings and age well (tea core btw). Most horse leather I've seen goes to two directions: either thick and grainy (like Aero) or thick and smooth/shiny. This medium/light weight horse leather has that sheen that really catches me.

It was very comfortable to wear due to the softness of the leather. At size 40 my movements are limited when fully zipped, but I would wear this jacket open at 95% times. Jacket at this thickness I only want to wear it with a Tshirt. With ~20 min of trying it on the sleeves already starting to develop folds. I did't crunch or pushup to further test the effects.

Here are me wearing them

View attachment 1321424
View attachment 1321425

Some detailed shots of the leather texture
View attachment 1321426
View attachment 1321427

Here comes the sad part. This jacket is marked at 1950 USD, quite a steep price. On FCL Japan website it is listed 143000 JPY, about 1300 USD. Shop owner told me the increase in price is mostly due to import duty, shipping, and plus this jacket is Self Edge's made-to-order version. The Japanese version would have different types (I think he wants to say "batches") of leather. I've been searching for a slim fitting flip collar jacket for a long time and finally I've found THE ONE. For me dropping 2k is a bit above the limit. I would happily buy this jacket at 1400 or 1500. Or... I might just go nuts and buy it. Let me chill and think :slapfight:

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looks like a perfect fit to me
 

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I went to Self Edge in NYC yesterday and tried the FCL James (size 40). It was a great experience.

James is the spring/summer iteration. Shinki horsehide is buttery smooth. Shop owner told me it is 1.3mm, but the jacket is light, to the extent that it feels like thin lamb leather used by fashion houses. The leather has very even and smooth grains. Upon a closer look, the leather feels dense but not stiff. It feels like this jacket can handle some serious beatings and age well (tea core btw). Most horse leather I've seen goes to two directions: either thick and grainy (like Aero) or thick and smooth/shiny. This medium/light weight horse leather has that sheen that really catches me.

It was very comfortable to wear due to the softness of the leather. At size 40 my movements are limited when fully zipped, but I would wear this jacket open at 95% times. Jacket at this thickness I only want to wear it with a Tshirt. With ~20 min of trying it on the sleeves already starting to develop folds. I did't crunch or pushup to further test the effects.

Here are me wearing them

View attachment 1321424
View attachment 1321425

Some detailed shots of the leather texture
View attachment 1321426
View attachment 1321427

Here comes the sad part. This jacket is marked at 1950 USD, quite a steep price. On FCL Japan website it is listed 143000 JPY, about 1300 USD. Shop owner told me the increase in price is mostly due to import duty, shipping, and plus this jacket is Self Edge's made-to-order version. The Japanese version would have different types (I think he wants to say "batches") of leather. I've been searching for a slim fitting flip collar jacket for a long time and finally I've found THE ONE. For me dropping 2k is a bit above the limit. I would happily buy this jacket at 1400 or 1500. Or... I might just go nuts and buy it. Let me chill and think :slapfight:

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Looks really nice! Might be a tad long in the body, but ymmv.

But wtf - how can the guys at SE have their expensive leathers hanging on thin metal hangers!? Crazy. :puzzled:
Or are "hanger shoulders" part of the Brand Story??
 

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I love the colour and finish of this jacket:



I've not seen it in the flesh. It's from Kushitani, a Japanese bike gear supplier with a long history of high quality. Their stuff can be hard to find. Their leather is usually lightweight, smooth and flawless, but it doesn't age as well as Aero and the other top end biker jackets. Here's a blue version of the jacket online in Japan for $900. https://japan.webike.net/products/23087583.html
 

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Maybe I should not have looked up the price in Japan, you know?
The $700 tax is pretty steep, about 50% more than the original price. They're are banking on you not taking a risk and you're paying a premium for the convenience of buying it here.

Personally doesn't look like a 2k jacket to me.
 

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The $700 tax is pretty steep, about 50% more than the original price. They're are banking on you not taking a risk and you're paying a premium for the convenience of buying it here.
Part of what you're paying for is the service to have that item closer to you so you can try it on, know your size, and be able to judge how it looks on you. You're not just paying someone to remove the risk of shipping. IMO, if a store played a role in your decision, you should support them, if only because, selfishly, having stores like that local to you means you can try out other cool clothes later.
 
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Maybe I should not have looked up the price in Japan, you know?
You could contact Charly here on SF at Falcon Garments see if maybe he’d be willing to do a custom jacket like that. He’s been sourcing black teacore steer recently, I just had a leather made which awesome. You can get it thinner or super thick up to 1.6 if you wanted. The model you’re looking for is basically would just be a collared moto without banding at the hems.
 

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