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Leather cracking on EGs - please advise

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Tibo, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Senior member

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    The cracks are pretty clear. I've got them on an old pair of RLPL EGs in the exact same place but it never really occurred to me that it was a problem with the leather.

    Just a combination of use / polish.
     


  2. i10casual

    i10casual Senior member

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    That is just the mature stage of your shoe. They may last 20 years but they wont look the same the who time. Sorry mate.
     


  3. imatlas

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    I think of a "crack" in the leather as an actual hole where the leather has worn through, usually at the point of a crease. As others have noted, there is no such hole visible in this image, just normal creasing.
     


  4. entrero

    entrero Senior member

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    The cracks are pretty clear. I've got them on an old pair of RLPL EGs in the exact same place but it never really occurred to me that it was a problem with the leather.

    Just a combination of use / polish.


    Let's start using the correct terminology. A crease is a crease and cracks are cracks. Creasing is normal whereas cracks means you're pretty much f[​IMG] 'd.
     


  5. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Senior member

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    Actually, I think some of you are missing the point. EG accept that there is damage and it was caused by a silicone based product, which the OP states he hasn't used. The problem is with the shoes.
     


  6. well-kept

    well-kept Senior member

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    Completely normal wear. And even if there were much more severe wear, deeper creases etc, that is what happens to good calf shoes over time. It's a badge of honor, not something to be corrected or complained about. EG talking about silicone sounds... well, silly.
     


  7. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Senior member

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    Let's start using the correct terminology. A crease is a crease and cracks are cracks. Creasing is normal whereas cracks means you're pretty much f[​IMG] 'd.

    I know the difference between cracks and creasing. You can see very small cracks in the leather on the crease where the OP has put the red arrow - it's pretty clear.

    Still think it's completely normal though. I don't think EG has confirmed that it's actual damage though have they? I think they just said that the effect was caused by silicone based products.

    As I said - got this on most shoes over a certain age and it doesn't bother me at all.
     


  8. Tibo

    Tibo Senior member

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    [​IMG] Here's my best attempt at capturing in pictures what I'm talking about. Close-up of the shoes without flash. The area I've circled shows cracking in my opinion, while the rest of the shoe on the same horizontal line shows creases. Now let's debate ...
     


  9. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Senior member

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    Good close-up. I'd be bloody enraged!
     


  10. nmprisons

    nmprisons Senior member

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    I can now see what you are talking about, and it does appear distinct from what I view as normal creasing. That said, my oldest decent shoes are only 3 years old and so I don't know whether that is "normal" for an older pair.
     


  11. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I can't tell from the photo either. But many times when shoes crease in this fashion, cracks are at least beginning. The only way you'll know for sure if it is just creasing or actual cracking is to put trees in them such that the whole forepart is stretched flat, or nearly so. Wipe them down good and then take a magnifying glass and look closely at the crease. Examine the edges of the creases. If they are cracking you will see a distinctive difference in the texture of the leather on top and the leather in the crease/crack. And you will see a sharp edge at the top of any crack. The leather in the crack/crease will also be dull. You might even sprinkle a little water on the affected area. If the leather is cracked it will, depending on how much wax/silicone has been applied, soak in. Now having said all that, some conditioning products do contain silicone and/or other chemicals (turpentine, benzine, etc..) that will hasten cracking....even if they don't mention it on the label. And all leather eventually cracks...there used to be an "old shoemaker's tale" that cracking such as this was due to floor level urinals. The point being that acids, acid rain, petroleum products, even road salt, etc....nearly everything, IOW...in the environment can be deleterious.
     


  12. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I just saw your latest photo--definitely cracking. It will only get worse. Sorry.
     


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    Here's my best attempt at capturing in pictures what I'm talking about. Close-up of the shoes without flash. The area I've circled shows cracking in my opinion, while the rest of the shoe on the same horizontal line shows creases.

    Now let's debate ...


    I stand corrected, thats uh crack. The problem how EG would solve this problem, because generally happens due negligence. Best of luck.
     


  14. MalfordOfLondon

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    I thought you just meant the sort of "micro cracks" which were apparent in the first two photos. Your last photo shows something completely different.

    Can't imagine anything can be done to remedy that and I'd say that's pretty strange for a shoe which is only a few years old unless you'd never taken care of them.
     


  15. rebel222

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    I need to recant my prior statements.

    Usually people come on this board and bitch about nothing. Your latest picture is different than the normal bitching.

    I would be pretty upset if my shoes were in the condition of your latest picture.

    Maybe DWFII can comment, but I always find that calfskin that is dyed black seems to crack and crease more dramatically. Maybe it is something in the process of dying calfskin black that stresses the leather more than brown.
     


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