Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SeamasterLux, Apr 17, 2014.
Great, great read. Thanks so much, look forward to round 2.
It does not really cover the UK - which is a large market.
No Marks and Spencer.
No High Street chains.
No smaller clothing retailers - Ede and Ravenscroft etc.
Well I cannot speak for Hugo who's in charge for the whole but as far as I am concerned, we did not review Zara, H&M, Cos, and the thousands of over brands that one can find. We do not claim to be exhaustive but tried to make a significant effort in providing a large database reviewing main RTW brands that most people are interested in or curious about. Feel free to review the ones you mentioned and to submit them to Hugo though.
Fair enough. My own opinions on the brands I know are of limited use here. There would be no consistency without reference to what is already mentioned.
What could be done, quite easily, is to indicate market share for the brands reviewed.
Maybe a separate exercise could then be done reviewing the major players in the market - either globally or by country.
Yes, of course. Regarding the Soft and Ivory, I haven't had a chance to compare them, but it brings up an important point; people forget that there are different categories and levels of make from every manufacturer. Just because one line is fully canvassed and has hand work doesn't mean all of them do, and doesn't mean that those lines won't change slightly from season to season. That's why I think the Working Hierarchical Whatever thread is flawed.
I totally agree, which is why I refused to do reviews of brands that I am familiar with from earlier periods in their history, e.g. a brand like Chester Barrie, which was absolutely stunning once, judging from the vintage pieces that I owned, but I'm well aware that today the manufacturing standards of that brand are not what they used to be.
At the other end of the spectrum, take a brand like Faconnable, which I will probably review: I happen to know first-hand how great they were many many years ago, and I also happen to own some of their garments from recent collections, which are not playing in the same league. So I would be very hesitant to review them today without owning something from the current collection. So my review today would still be relevant, even though I would not be writing a review of their former glory, only a review of today's state of affairs at the brand.
Brands have a history, with ups and downs -- mainly downs actually. As they get bigger, it's hard for them to keep up with the same manufacturing quality on a massive scale unfortunately. Which is why the Caruso story is so striking to me.
but i think if we constantly update it according to the latest experience,despite some lagging, the list is still useful
Market share is probably the least relevant metric. The top brand would likely be sold at WalMart, which only tells us it is cheap and has wide distribution.
I think their approach is perfect: Reviewing the top brands with the most interest.
"Top brands" is a debatable claim if it is applied to a two bob company that few people have heard of and even less purchase from.
It depends on what is the intent of the review.
I wrote that poorly. They have reviewed the brands that generate the most discussion and are generally well known here on SF. They are "Top brands" in that people here are most interested in these brands' reviews. They have added a few lesser know names that they are familiar with, but this only adds interest and value IMO.
I agree that it would be great to have comparisons of top selling brands like Hugo Boss, etc, which I expect would not compare favorably. But that would be a lot of work, and who wants to spend time and money on these brands? I think they seem to have (or will) hit the important ones.
OK igent companies. It should be just as easy to review M&S as Lewin though, for the UK. Likewise Hackett, as opposed to similar outfits like Tyrwhitt, Roderick Charles etc.
Fascinating reviews to read! Hats off to the author for taking the time to write all this up!
Can't wait to one day own a Tom Ford suit, but it'll have to wait until I get into good enough shape to warrant such a purchase lol.
That said... how would you guys describe/rate Ludlow suits from JCrew? Wondering how they'd stack up with some of the entry level ones on here. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a sparingly worn suit that I may have to replace less than a year later.
Thanks for writing up this article, it was a fascinating read.
Great job guys ! Extensive and very useful review. Two thumbs up !
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