Just got my order. Here's my rundown: Chino Pant: This was the biggest surprise to me. Really, really nice. They are surprisingly lower rise than typical Lands End. The fabric is soft, but not heavy. I have a pair of J Crew Officer's Chinos on order, but I will be surprised if I like them better. Big winner here. I also am digging the MacNeils I got. Though not Lands End, the 25% discount was nice. No defects in mine. Also got a messenger bag. They are actually kinda cool. For anyone who got the chinos, are they slim or relaxed as it appears on the site photos. What's the leg opening measurement? How did they compare to the J Crew officer chinos?