Lacoste - india

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gregory, May 14, 2004.

  1. gregory

    gregory Senior member

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    Dear Ranjeev:

    Yes, you are right that Lacoste came out with a spendex version, but I am sure the one I bought from Saks is not of this type because it is 100% made with cotton. It has a tag said that it was made in Peru.

    The one from eBay is definitely from India because it has a tag that said it was manufactured by the Indian licensee.

    Best,
    gregory

    PS: Thanks to all for sharing your experience.
     


  2. kalra2411

    kalra2411 Senior member

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    Well, if you really want my opinion, for a polo shirt I would go for; Zegna, Gucci, YSL Rive Gauche, Comme Des Garcons, Malo, Lucien Pellat-Finet, Prada, Zanone, Loro Piana, or Helmut Lang.

    As you can see that is quite a varied set, you could say that some, such as LPF and CDG are not suitable for a man my age, I would say some of the more conservative designs of such are.

    In addition, some of the brands (Zegna, Malo, and Helmut Lang) cost little more than a Lactose, yet the quality is far superior, albeit no branding. Especially in terms of fitting, and the image, I do not really want to be sporting a brand with an athletic image. (Lacoste). Also note that all products from these brands are made in France, Japan, The UK, or Italy, unlike Lacoste.

    Now it is one thing to pay more for clothing than it is worth, but to pay $100 + for a polo shirt made in the USA or Peru or India is crazy. I do not know why, but if the product is made somwhere like Italy of France, it seems alright to pay over the top for me.

    Some are a lot more than the Lacostes (YSL RG, LPF), and I appreciate that you many not want to spend that much more.

    At another end, for formal wear, Boy Milano, Cortigiani, Pal Zileri, Valentino, and Bironi are my choice.
     


  3. gregory

    gregory Senior member

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    OK, kalra2411, I accept that I am poorer than you.

    But I think that I should not rule out a clothing just because of the place of manufacture. As our friend jrh pointed out, the Lacoste polos made in Peru and France are indistinguishable. Given the choice, I would opt for France, but it doesn't mean I'll stay away from Lacoste polos from Peru.

    Mesh polos have their origin as sportswear. There is nothing to be ashamed about wearing a Lacoste polo with its athletic connotations. I do not wear polo shirts to the opera anyway. I would instead think twice about wearing a polo shirt from Gucci or YSL. Wearing a YSL or Gucci polo to the gym or to play tennis or to the club is not my idea of being stylish and well-dressed.
     


  4. j

    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    Any time you put a colored item in the dryer, turn it inside-out. This will minimize the fading to the outer surface. In my experience, this will keep polo shirts looking good (well, as good as they can) for a long time. I have a bunch of RL's in L that I don't wear because I don't like looking sloppy/gangsta like I did in high school. However, I am pretty happy with the quality of them. I got all at outlet stores and sales, usually for about $25 a piece.

    IMO, the best polo I've seen (out of not many) is my Lacoste (made in France) which I also don't wear because it's too big. I wish I had the $ to just go buy a bunch of them in the right size because they are very nice. However, for the moment I'm looking into cheap substitutes. I got one from JC Penney that I wore for one day and only returned because I didn't like the color and it was a little big for a M. However, the quality was easily on par with Polo and it was about $17 or so on sale.

    Somewhat relatedly, did anyone see on the news about Gap/BR/etc admitting they have sweatshop conditions in some of their production facilities? Like, duh...
     


  5. gregory

    gregory Senior member

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    I compared my Polo Ralph Lauren regular mesh polo with Lacoste. Lacoste wins hand down. But their sizes and cuts are very very similar (Polo M and Lacoste Peru '5'). The Polo RL one is a bit longer in the rear part of the body, whereas the Lacoste one has the same length both front and back.
    They are indeed very nice. Give yourself a treat. Visit a Lacoste store, get at least one [the rest can be cheaper substitutes]. Wear Lacoste when you feel particularly happy. Life is too short. [​IMG]
     


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    Yes, the longer rear is called a tennis tail, is was designed to keep the shirt tucked in while playing tennis. Where did you find that Lacoste picture, perchance?

    Jon.
     


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    Steve B. Go Spurs Go

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    Gregory- do you work for Lacoste? Sure seems like you're giving them a lot of "press"...

    I'm with Kalra on this one, although "rubbish" was a little harsh. I also think there are a few things still made well in the USA, but not as many as the other countries he named. Zegna, Bobby Jones, and Jeff Rose are made of finer weaves of cotton which feel much better to the hand and against the skin. The cotton also breathes better in warmer climates, and these shirts are much more comfortable to wear when it's hot (I like to golf and there's really no comparison). IMO the above-named brands and those Kalra mentioned also look much better than a logoed, pique (waffle) knit polo which looks great on the golf course, tennis court, or with jeans, but not very good under a sport coat, or very distinctive with khakis.  But don't take my word for it- head to a local mall and compare a Zegna to a Lacoste and see if they're worth the extra cost. If there is one; it's easy to get a Zegna at a seasonal sale or on E-Bay for as much as you'd pay for a Lacoste at full retail.
     


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    kalra2411 Senior member

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    Agreed, a little harsh, okay just not good then....


    Perhaps if you had said that you were playing sport in it, my view would not have been the same. Lacoste is prety good for sport, I guess I thought you would be wearing it in a different situation - because I play very little sport.
     


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    Steve B., I do not understand why you must resort to this simply because you don't share my opinion.
     


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    I've heard very good things about John Smedley polo shirts.
     


  11. kalra2411

    kalra2411 Senior member

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    Gregory, I think you are taking things too heavy - it sounds like he was joking, perhaps you need to take in what we are saying a bit more.

    Take it with a pinch of salt, relax, we are only giving our opinion.
     


  12. gregory

    gregory Senior member

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    Of that, I leave it to other members of the forum to judge.

    I believe that:

    * members of this forum should be able to openly state their preference for certain labels without being criticized for their preferences

    * members of this forum should be able to openly state their preference for certain labels without being baselessly accused of working for the company which manufactures those labels

    If you had the guts to do it, don't downplay it now.
     


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    kalra2411 Senior member

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    Well Greg, I am sorry to say that that is just your opinion. I do not think that you should be so involved with a brand, that you take personal offense if they criticise it.

    Not once did anyone criticise you for liking Lacoste.

    I think you need to read what is being said before you take offense.
     


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    kalra2411 Senior member

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    That is not personal offence. If I cannot understand why they like somthing, it is NOT AN OFFENCE.
     


  15. gregory

    gregory Senior member

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    I am not upset that anyone is criticizing Lacoste. In fact, I have criticized the Lacoste polo shirts from India. I am upset that I am being criticized by you for liking Lacoste, and that I am being accused by Steve B for working for Lacoste.

    This will be my last post on this subject matter because I do not want to create further inconvenience for other members of this forum.
     


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