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Kiton prices: how high can they go?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by hopkins_student, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    When I got into tailored clothing about ten years ago I'd admire the Kiton and Brioni suits at Neiman Marcus that were priced at $3,200. A few years later (2005-6) both were selling for $5,000. Brioni for the most part has stayed there (most suits were $5,500 on my visit to the Vegas boutique in March), but now when I venture into the Kiton boutique prices are $8,300-$9,100. So, what's the ceiling for Kiton? Are they really going to be able to sell RTW for $10,000, or is that the point where people will finally put their collective feet down? What are your thoughts?
     
  2. dragon8

    dragon8 Senior member

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    Its supply and demand. Those that want Kiton will buy it regardless of price.
     
  3. ylkim30

    ylkim30 Well-Known Member

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    At those prices, I don't understand why people don't just go bespoke. I think you can get bespoke Rubinacci for less than a RTW Kiton.
     
  4. dragon8

    dragon8 Senior member

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    You can but you probably can't get the fabrics that Kiton uses. They are very nice. Are they $10,000 nice? I'd say no but...
     
  5. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    I'm not certain. I think there has to be a point where the demand curve steepens considerably.
     
  6. Texasmade

    Texasmade Senior member

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    Not this again...
     
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  7. Alvinbmx

    Alvinbmx Senior member

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    Agreed. They have many fabrics that are exclusively made for them so it is impossible to find them anywhere else.

    As for construction, I think it is comparable among the good or top tailors. No matter how good a workmanship is, it is still replicable by others. There is a limit to workmanship unless they have some innovative and new construction methods that are not known to man.
     
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    Alvinbmx Senior member

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    By the way, the last time I heard someone spend $25,000 on a bespoke kiton. Not sure if it is truly bespoke or just MTM. Anyway, Kiton prices can be out of this world.
     
  9. Alvinbmx

    Alvinbmx Senior member

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    Repeated post
     
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  10. dragon8

    dragon8 Senior member

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    K50, its bespoke.
     
  11. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    Prices on all Kiton goods seem to have skyrocketed in recent years. Nice stuff though.
     
  12. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Not everyone wants to wait or go through the process. Many can't visualize what it will look like and would rather see a high-end RTW, get it tailored and walk away.

    Not everyone wants to build their own house for the same reason, even though they could. They would much rather fall in love with something they see,buy it and move in. Same thing.
     
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  13. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    As someone who has purchased several RTW Kiton suits this is precisely the reason why. With one or two bespoke garments I could probably get the hang of asking for what I wanted and visualizing the fabric swatches turned into clothes, but I don't have the time or interest to travel for multiple fittings. Perhaps if I lived in New York or London I would consider trying Rubinacci, but how my life is right now I can't plan trips back and forth for fittings. Also, by purchasing from Kiton I feel like if things don't turn out the right way they'll do pretty much whatever is required to rectify the situation. I'm not sure that I necessarily trust a smaller operation to do that. That being said, I'm not sure what my plan is if Kiton prices continue to increase at the rate they have been.
     
  14. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    There's a special group of idiots in the world who will still buy them.
     
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    I asked the same question of my tailor who regularly takes alterations on 8k+ RTW suits. He says those clients A) have the money, and B) don't have the patience for bespoke. They want something nice now, so they pay a crap ton of money for it because it's a drop in the bucket.
     
  16. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    I hear you. In this world of immediate gratification, for most people, patience isn't a strong point. Some people just like the big-timer feeling that they get from shopping in well-known retail store.
     
  17. biged781

    biged781 Senior member

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    Yep, definitely that as well.
     
  18. poorsod

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    I've tried on Kiton RTW. IMO they are nice but not worth the $$$. The shoulders also look generic to me. The NYC store is beautiful. Their bespoke (or MTM I forget) cloth room on the second floor is :drool:
     
  19. twinpeaks

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    FAIC in the end Kiton is a 'designer' brand like D&G and the likes. The fact that it targets very different markets (presumably the more discerning market-but in the end not really) and that unlikely D&G it actually produces top quality products, does not invalidate the association, since for me the defining characteristics of a designer brand are 1) the retail price is unjustifiably higher than the manufacture price, and 2) their markets are composed of people who are willing to ignore point 1 due to the ‘aura’ associated with the brand and/or just don’t care about whatever the retail price may be

    Kiton’s extortionary shoe prices are a good example. When I go to a Kiton shop, the RTW shoes prices start at £2500. Forget the fact that you can get bespoke anything for that price-let’s assume you are a man in a hurry, like it has been argued in this thread as the Kiton selling point. These £2500 give you what is undoubtedly a great pair of RTW shoes but nothing better than a £670 RTW EG. It is impossible not to take some lessons home even if shoes are not Kiton’s core offer
     
  20. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    ^
    they are basically
    meccariello shoes
    those are his lasts
    and his upper designs
    and almost
    as well made
     

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