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Thanks. It looks better than what I expected from that one photo of long socks, which kind of put me off.

Many of these designs feel streetwear-ish. Kapital in general feels increasingly streetwear-ish in the last few years. Not a criticism. I recently bought one of the trucker hats and like it. It's just an observation.

I don't know. I have mixed feelings about them using this as an aesthetic. If people want to buy things that say Free Tibet, I think they should buy from an organization that's actually working on the cause (not of actually Freeing Tibet, as that's kind of a lost cause, but to help monks in Nepal or something). That said, I've bought political merch for aesthetics and understand this is maybe tangential.
i also have mixed feelings about it now that I see it. having that white dude dressed as the Dalai Lama is pretty fuckin stupid

edit: oh just saw you said that already
 

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@dieworkwear which trucker hat did you get?
Bought the "denim repair" one.

H Lorenzo had them for 115 rather than the usual 175. Dunno if it's normal that their prices are lower than other US stockists. I like buying domestic nowadays cause I can return if I don't like the item

 

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One of the strange things about scrolling through those IG reactions is that, if you click on the people commenting, they're all very fashionably dressed people. It's just somewhat striking to see because, in the US, you don't associate such dress with nationalism. Fashionably dressed people in the US tend to be located in big cities, and people in big cities are either apolitical or left/ liberal. The only way you can trigger a response like this in the US is if you made some racist campaign.

Kind of an obvious point, but it's just striking to see people decked out in Saint Laurent, Acronym, Gucci, etc being super nationalistic. I saw one guy in JJJJOUND X NB sneakers screaming "USA IS YOUR DAD"
 
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One of the strange things about scrolling through those IG reactions is that, if you click on the people commenting, they're all very fashionably dressed people. It's just somewhat striking to see because, in the US, you don't associate such dress with nationalism. Fashionably dressed people in the US tend to be located in big cities, and people in big cities are either apolitical or left/ liberal. The only way you can trigger a response like this in the US is if you made some racist campaign.

Kind of an obvious point, but it's just striking to see people decked out in Saint Laurent, Acronym, Gucci, etc being super nationalistic. I saw one guy in JJJJOUND X NB sneakers screaming "USA IS YOUR DAD"
My guess: a LOT of new money facilitated by the Chinese system. Results in a lot of wealthy people who a very grateful to said system. Hence nationalism.

BTW, I'd love for the USA to be my dad. Where do I send my application?
 

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*my package containing studded jeans from Kapital is intercepted by Chinese customs in Hong Kong (where the package is currently located) *

*Word reaches the Chinese parliament*

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One of the strange things about scrolling through those IG reactions is that, if you click on the people commenting, they're all very fashionably dressed people. It's just somewhat striking to see because, in the US, you don't associate such dress with nationalism. Fashionably dressed people in the US tend to be located in big cities, and people in big cities are either apolitical or left/ liberal. The only way you can trigger a response like this in the US is if you made some racist campaign.

Kind of an obvious point, but it's just striking to see people decked out in Saint Laurent, Acronym, Gucci, etc being super nationalistic. I saw one guy in JJJJOUND X NB sneakers screaming "USA IS YOUR DAD"
My wife is from Venezuela. Her grandmother and aunt's were gifted houses by the Hugo Chavez regime. Chavez died and Venezuela has been an absolute disaster for 10 years, but my wife's family remain steadfast supporters/believers in Chavez and his successor (former VP) Nicolas Maduro.

It's hard to understand as an American because our government believes in "Everyone needs to pick themselves up by the boot straps" (unless you're a mega-corporation, of course), but I imagine if the US government changed many poor people's lives they'd be uniquely nationalistic too.
 

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My wife is from Venezuela. Her grandmother and aunt's were gifted houses by the Hugo Chavez regime. Chavez died and Venezuela has been an absolute disaster for 10 years, but my wife's family remain steadfast supporters/believers in Chavez and his successor (former VP) Nicolas Maduro.

It's hard to understand as an American because our government believes in "Everyone needs to pick themselves up by the boot straps" (unless you're a mega-corporation, of course), but I imagine if the US government changed many poor people's lives they'd be uniquely nationalistic too.
Exactly. This is what I said above, but much less eloquently.
 

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My wife is from Venezuela. Her grandmother and aunt's were gifted houses by the Hugo Chavez regime. Chavez died and Venezuela has been an absolute disaster for 10 years, but my wife's family remain steadfast supporters/believers in Chavez and his successor (former VP) Nicolas Maduro.

It's hard to understand as an American because our government believes in "Everyone needs to pick themselves up by the boot straps" (unless you're a mega-corporation, of course), but I imagine if the US government changed many poor people's lives they'd be uniquely nationalistic too.
Personally, I think most people develop their political views as a result of other circumstances. And political views are not always rational or rationally formed. They are often inherited through a process that's a mix of geography, family, religion, class, educational background, etc. And thus, those political views also become part of your identity. Once those views become part of your identity, they're not always rationally held or motivated.
 

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Personally, I think most people develop their political views as a result of other circumstances. And political views are not always rational or rationally formed. They are often inherited through a process that's a mix of geography, family, religion, class, educational background, etc. And thus, those political views also become part of your identity. Once those views become part of your identity, they're not always rationally held or motivated.
True Inner Self, eh?
 

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Personally, I think most people develop their political views as a result of other circumstances. And political views are not always rational or rationally formed. They are often inherited through a process that's a mix of geography, family, religion, class, educational background, etc. And thus, those political views also become part of your identity. Once those views become part of your identity, they're not always rationally held or motivated.
Lol Derek I can never tell if we're agreeing or not. We must have unintentionally oppositive writing styles / tones.
 

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Lol Derek I can never tell if we're agreeing or not. We must have unintentionally oppositive writing styles / tones.
This is what I usually feel when reading a @Fuuma post...
 
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My guess: a LOT of new money facilitated by the Chinese system. Results in a lot of wealthy people who a very grateful to said system. Hence nationalism.

BTW, I'd love for the USA to be my dad. Where do I send my application?
From what I can observe, a lot of the young people who come from Chinese wealth boom families and get decked out in international luxury brands are not too nationalistic at all. They've had everything from a very young age and see their family wealth as entirely deserved, and instead see a lot of CCP regulations as restrictive to the consume everything, flaunt everything, influencer lives they should be living. The people who are most nationalistic are actually the ones who went from poverty to lower middle class.

However, every social strata will get nationalistic if it's against Japan. The political bad blood kind of died down in the 90s and really came back again in the social media age.
 

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Coming from a US perspective, I think it’s particularly difficult to have a stance on China that hasn’t been affected by US anti-China (or anti “communist”) propaganda that’s been fed to us for years and years. In media, China is often painted as the ideological other to the US and is used as a boogeyman looming on the horizon ready to “beat” the US at whatever struggle or race we’re engaged in. A lot of dialogue then just moves into Sinophobia (not saying that is what’s happening here).

The US will criticize or declare outrage at other countries while committing those same actions themselves (or while having played a direct hand in destabilizing that country through meddling in their politics, enacting sanctions, etc.). If another country dares to imagine a form of government that is incongruent with US capitalism (e.g. any form of socialism in the global south), we’re quick to attempt to put an end to it.

This really isn’t a note on the Free Tibet stuff either, but I thought I’d just throw my two cents in.
 
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Lol Derek I can never tell if we're agreeing or not. We must have unintentionally oppositive writing styles / tones.
I honestly have no idea what I'm saying 30% of the time, so that's reasonable (not a snarky comment. clarifying since I know some of my comments are somewhat tongue in cheek, but I really have no idea what I'm typing sometimes).

Anyways, a totally weird thing to see on Kapital's IG.
 

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