I've been emailing Kamakura customer service trying to determine what they have in my size and now I'm thoroughly confused. If the site lists a shirt as having a collar size of 16 is it really a 16 1/3 that shrinks down to a 16 during washing or is it a 16 that shrinks down to a 15 2/3? I understood it to mean the former but now I'm thinking that they're telling me the latter. I'm a thin 6'2", I wear a size 31 or 32 waist size pant, 38 size jacket and shirts generally at 15.5 - 34/35. I find that some shirt collars end up being slightly snug and arm length has never been too long, so slightly longer would be OK. Therefor a shirt that ends up at 15 3/4 -35 1/2 would,probably work out well...if that's in fact the size after shrinkage. Arg!