Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by bdbuchan, Jul 6, 2011.
I'd also be pretty intimidated to wear monk straps to an office of poorly dressed slobs.
I'm in the same situation and am leaning towards: 1. black balmoral cap toe with no broguing 2. dark brown balmoral wingtips Question: why do they not make brown Allen Edmonds McAllisters or MacNeils? 3. burgundy/merlot cordovan longwings 4. light brown/walnut balmoral cap toe half brogues 5. something different such as suede, loafers, boots, or monks, depending on preference
Assuming this is just MC-type shoes and shoes you mainly wear with a suit, this is how I would roll.
1. The boring black captoe - Allen Edmonds Park Avenue
2. The brown punch cap, should see a lot more wear than the boring Park Avenue. - Allen Edmonds Fifth Avenue
3. Wingtip in Walnut, flashier shoe used to pull in womenz - Allen Edmonds Strand
4. Something in Alden #8 - Alden Plain Toe Blucher
5. Monk Straps - Highly up to you
I'd say it gets really open ended after the first two pairs of shoes. I was also thinking about a Suede Chukka or a pair of Longwings for that 5th shoe, but since you like Monks then that gave it the edge.
I'm in the same situation and am leaning towards:
1. black balmoral cap toe with no broguing
2. dark brown balmoral wingtips
Question: why do they not make brown Allen Edmonds McAllisters or MacNeils?
3. burgundy/merlot cordovan longwings
4. light brown/walnut balmoral cap toe half brogues
5. something different such as suede, loafers, boots, or monks, depending on preference
Vox is watching this thread very closely
Just the thread I was looking for! I love wearing suits or the jacket with tie/bow tie combo when I go out. I've never been the type of person to dress down when going out. Any more pictorial examples would be greatly appreciated!
I agree with the comment "quality over quantity". Here would be my five choices, given your situation: 1. black captoe oxfords (a very conservative business shoe, it can be worn with a suit, with business casual, and is also acceptable, though marginally so, with a tux. The AE Park Avenue is an example, though I'm not fond of AE shoes and every shoemaker will have a black captoe oxford in the catalog). 2. dark brown punched captoe oxfords (Also suit-appropriate, but more interesting than a plain captoe. It can be worn with business casual. Again, every shoemaker will offer one). 3. brown or burgundy double-monks (Brown shoes can be worn with any shade of trousers except black; burgundy may, in principle, be worn with any color trousers including black. My favorites are the JL Chapel, pictured here: http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/200...n-museum-calf/ though not necessarily in the color shown) 4. A brown boot with rubber sole for rain/snow/slush. I like the CJ Tetbury chukka boots because they're shape makes them slightly fashion forward (can be worn with business casual and casual, including jeans). http://www.pediwear.co.uk/crockett/products/1432.php 5. Your walnut AEs. If you have the money to buy a fifth pair and really like double monks, get a second pair, perhaps in brown suede. These shoes would work with business casual and casual, including jeans (depending on their styling. For example, I wouldn't wear JL Chapels with jeans).
It's almost impossible for us to help him here without his going out and trying shoes on. He may never find a black bal that fits correctly, for instance. Took me over 100 pairs since I joined in 2007 to get it right. And I still do not own one pair of black shoes.
According to your avatar thingy you've been here since 2010.
Also, for more background context:
1) Oxford/balmorals are more formal and conservative than derbies/bluchers
it's harder to get the fit right with oxfords.
So here's where I am (more specifically):
- AE park/fifth ave (I like the punch cap better personally and don't think it will matter given how few truly conservative scenarios I am in)
- Alden Men's NST Tie Shell Cordovan Aberdeen Last (#8)
- Monk Strap
- Possibly a merlot Oxford of some sort (probably a wingtip)
This has been really helpful- by no means does it need to stop because I'm enjoying the comments, but I think I have what I need to begin. Thanks!
My first five(which is my entire shoe collection at the moment):
Black Park Ave AE
Merlot McAllister AE
Walnut Strand AE
Brown Fifth Ave AE
Merlot Park Ave AE
Boring, for SF standards, but I'm happy with the collection so far.
p.s. lawyer here, so i need more formal shoes.
This is a non-specific list, so I can imagine a lawyer might be dissatisfied, but these are models I own and I think every one who loves shoes should own:
1) Edward Green Newbury (wholecut)
2) Tricker's derby full-brogue (under several names depending on leather, I prefer the Ilkley)
3) John Lobb William
4) Edward Green Dover
5) Alfred Sargent Caldbeck
Note I am not so enthusiastic about every pair of shoes I own and so ythis just isn't a "I own t and you should too list". I just can't imagine anyone's not thinking each of these shoes isn't perfect, for their intended uses of course, all things considered. For example, the Tricker's is going to look lousy with a suit. I would not use the Dover for "hunting". Lots of makers make the AS Caldbeck type shoe (including EG) but the AS is the most durable and is fantastically cheap given its quality.
I couldn't be happier with my selections. Covered all the bases expediently.
C&J Audley - Black
C&J Weymouth - Dark Brown something or other
EG Claverton - Dark Oak Antique
G&G Hayes - Vintage Rioja
EG Russell - Burgundy Antique (favorite, color and shine is unbelievable)
EG Picadilly - Burnt Pine or Edwardian or something
EG Kingsway - Chestnut Antique
EG Kingsway (no tassels) - Black
next will be EG Warwick - Mink Suede
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