So, I jumped on the bandwagon and got a pair of APC "New Standards." I have them on right now, and they feel like sheet metal, it's kinda cool though. I'm also wearing my Nike Dunks, so I feel like on of those Japanese Denim freaks. It's a 10.5 inch rise, which is not too high, or too low. I'd prefer if they were an inch or a half an inch shorter. I bought a size 29; the guy said they stretch in the waist and shrink about two inches in length. For anyone who has APC jeans, what is the best method for getting that greenish tint? The card that came with them, shows 4 different wash methods.