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Common, do not do it. Those are nice shoes indeed and almost new. It is better to donante them than to cut them for the heck of it. Or maybe they just need a JR resoling?Third closet’s the charm. Found a pair. I’ll cut these guys open.
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I think you are confusing loake / Barker etc.. Mid ranges with CJ and the other premium English makers.They sew them in Poland/Romania/India, like all good British brands these days. ?
It was a sarcastic post, a lot of "dirty" British jobs are done by imported polish and EE labor now.I think you are confusing loake / Barker etc.. Mid ranges with CJ and the other premium English makers.
I could be wrong but I have seen the CJ factory, they have whole hides, clickers etc..
Do you have any information about CJ sewing uppers outside of UK?
Agreed if you mean needing to wear those shoes to work, but plenty do by choice in other professions too.
Probably a significant amount. The leather is pulled a bit more than snugly over the last and often with a little moisture to help the leather stretch and conform. The last is in there and it takes some force to pull. All of which suggests that even a 'lasted' tree...which needs to go in and out of the shoe easily...is significantly smaller than the last.Actually - Thinking back to the discussion about resoling and how it’s preferable to have the original last. Here’s a question for @DWFII I always opt to add lasted trees. If I’ve got my hinged trees from my maker, how much of a difference are we likely talking about compared to the last the shoes were built on for the purposes of retaining the shape during a resole?
The only shoes CJ makes elsewhere are the driving shoes in Italy but they are transparent about it. The rest are made in UK fullyI think you are confusing loake / Barker etc.. Mid ranges with CJ and the other premium English makers.
I could be wrong but I have seen the CJ factory, they have whole hides, clickers etc..
Do you have any information about CJ sewing uppers outside of UK?
Common, do not do it. Those are nice shoes indeed and almost new. It is better to donante them than to cut them for the heck of it. Or maybe they just need a JR resoling?
Probably.There might also be a difference between the US and Europe? I worked in the US for a while and was suprised how many people wore sneakers at work while that was a big no-no where im from.
"Stuffier?" I don't think so. That's just a lazy way of saying "more traditional."Europe as a whole is much stuffier than the USA. Japanese salarymen also wear dress/semi dress shoes daily.
This would be interesting. This pair is from the late 00’s if I recall when I got it correctly.Honestly would be really interesting if we could get Park Avs from like 2000. I have a 2014, and then buy new ones (on sale of course).
Cut them all up to compare.
Adding a 80s one would be interesting but a shame, as that's likely a damn good shoe.
2008-2011/12 judging by the black lacquered insole.This would be interesting. This pair is from the late 00’s if I recall when I got it correctly.
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That timeline sounds right for when I would have been buying AE and was a lurker on here and AAAC. Basically 06-'11ish. It would be interesting to see how much they've changed in the last 15 years or so. I'll grab some pictures in a bit but the summary -2008-2011/12 judging by the black lacquered insole.
I have some Park Avenues from that time. I also have a pair from 2018.