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JoS. A. Bank - Quality/Contruction/Pricing Answers

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mcmillin, May 7, 2009.

  1. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    How much do you charge for alterations? I might bite if I can make the suit slim fitting like an RLBL.

    I'll try to cover most common alterations here. Every person is going to need different operations, of course, so your pricing will vary accordingly.

    Pants
    Bottoms $12
    Waist/Waist & Seat $10
    Seat/Seat & Crotch $10
    Waist, Seat & Crotch $17

    Jackets
    Sleeves $7.50/sleeve
    Sides $7.50/side
    Center $10

    The jacket prices will go up a bit if they are taken through vents or arms or if the sleeves need to be raised or lowered farther than the vent will allow without re-cutting it...and there are, of course, multiple other operations available. We also do outside alterations for a couple dollars more per operation. Almost all of our stores have a tailor on site and our larger volume stores use our company's regional workrooms at busy times.
     
  2. bigbris1

    bigbris1 Senior member

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    I'll try to cover most common alterations here. Every person is going to need different operations, of course, so your pricing will vary accordingly. Pants Bottoms $12 Waist/Waist & Seat $10 Seat/Seat & Crotch $10 Waist, Seat & Crotch $17 Jackets Sleeves $7.50/sleeve Sides $7.50/side Center $10 The jacket prices will go up a bit if they are taken through vents or arms or if the sleeves need to be raised or lowered farther than the vent will allow without re-cutting it...and there are, of course, multiple other operations available. We also do outside alterations for a couple dollars more per operation. Almost all of our stores have a tailor on site and our larger volume stores use our company's regional workrooms at busy times.
    Are you the dude who was selling JAB seersucker trousers on eBay a while back? If not, just please enjoy my avatar [​IMG]
     
  3. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    A few months ago, I bought my stepson a Signature suit for $238 (+tax and alterations charges). He seems very happy with it, and at that price I think we got more than fair value. Since JAB is constantly having heavy duty discounts, sales and deals of the sort described above, I can't help thinking that a fellow who just naively walks in and pays full retail (say $795 for a Signature suit) is something of a chump. I know that if I had just paid about $800 for a Signature suit and then a week later saw a deal like that offered, I would feel both mortified and angry. How do you deal with customers like that? Mind you, I'm not knocking JAB. I think shrewdly used, JAB can be a good resource and provide excellent value. I have found the sales staff at my local JAB to be extremely friendly and helpful.

    On another note, could you tell us a little more about the Signature Platinum? Does it differ from the Signature Gold only in utilizing fabrics with a higher super number or are there any differences in construction, as well.


    Long story short - personally (speaking only of MY managerial style in MY store) I would adjust the customer's price to reflect the better current sale. (I have never had this occue, by the way.)

    The Signature Gold and Platinum are very similar in construction. They both feature a lot of hand-work including pic stitching around the lapels, collar, and pockets and a Bemberg lining. In the Platinum you will get better quality wool on the outside and higher quality interior materials used in the chest pieces of the coat. Joseph, Signature, Signature Gold, and Signature Platinum are all able to have working buttonholes added, too.
     
  4. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    Are you the dude who was selling JAB seersucker trousers on eBay a while back? If not, just please enjoy my avatar [​IMG]

    nope...wasn't me. but thanks for the avatar, haha.
     
  5. agavilanes

    agavilanes Senior member

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    Since all of our suits are private label, we use workshops all over the world to manufacture our pieces. You won't find the same suit under another label anywhere. We usually try to source the best quality workroom we can find near the mill that is weaving the fabric to lower cost. You will find suits made in Brazil, Mexico, France, China, and Ecuador along with many others.
    Ecuador??? I'm there!!!

    Who made stuff for you here? (if it's not classified info... if it is PM me [​IMG] )

    My complaint against you is your sizing is WAAAAY odd. I'm a medium in most brands and your medium stuff fits me like tents. Actually, much like Tommy Hilfiger regular fit.
     
  6. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    Ecuador??? I'm there!!!

    Who made stuff for you here? (if it's not classified info... if it is PM me [​IMG] )

    My complaint against you is your sizing is WAAAAY odd. I'm a medium in most brands and your medium stuff fits me like tents. Actually, much like Tommy Hilfiger regular fit.


    I am not privy to what workrooms/factories we use in a particular location.

    I am in complete agreement about sportswear sizing. I mentioned it in this same thread before, actually. Our sportswear is sized very large to size. Try a small next time. I am a 50L jacket, 44 pant and only an XL in our casual sizing. (XXL in almost all other brands) It goes both ways - some brands are sized very small. Kenneth Cole for example...I know without ever trying another shirt on that an XXL from them won't fit me.
     
  7. Mr T

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    I am surprised that this thread is still going strong and applaud the OP for answering our questions.

    Having said that, my experience is that JAB jackets have very thick shoulders and stiff chests. Wearing them is like going back to the 80s. I hate this about JAB because they show some promise. Their Harris Tweed jackets are especially attractive but again the shoulders are deal breakers.

    I have returned 90% of the clothes bought online from JAB and no longer give them business.

    The only item I can recommed are the Donegal tweed trousers. In the end however I feel JAB has little to offer.
     
  8. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    I am surprised that this thread is still going strong and applaud the OP for answering our questions.

    Having said that, my experience is that JAB jackets have very thick shoulders and stiff chests. Wearing them is like going back to the 80s. I hate this about JAB because they show some promise. Their Harris Tweed jackets are especially attractive but again the shoulders are deal breakers.

    I have returned 90% of the clothes bought online from JAB and no longer give them business.

    The only item I can recommed are the Donegal tweed trousers. In the end however I feel JAB has little to offer.


    I wonder what level of suits it is that you've had experience with. I wouldn't describe the chest pieces of any of our suits as stiff. As for the shoulder, I don't have any problem fitting me or most of my clients.

    I love our Harris Tweeds...and it's getting harder and harder to find an actual Harris Tweed from the Hebrides.

    Do you shop only with our online catalog or have you tried coming into a store? I have trouble judging things online - wonder if you would be more successful being able to see/touch/try the items before purchase.
     
  9. Composer_1777

    Composer_1777 Senior member

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    Good job with this post. Next time i'm looking to buy a new blazer or suit i will check out the store near me.
     
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    navysuede Senior member

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    For what it's worth.Everything that I have ever bought from JAB (30 to 40 items)I liked and was satisfied with the pricing and selection.[​IMG]
     
  11. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth.Everything that I have ever bought from JAB (30 to 40 items)I liked and was satisfied with the pricing and selection.[​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    I'm really glad i started this thread. You guys are a lot nicer about JoS. A. Bank when you have someone on the other end to actually ask questions...haha.

    Keep 'em coming...
     
  12. tripp

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    mcmillin,
    what size JAB jacket do you recommend to a customer that measures 42" across the chest and 47" overarm? One often reads to size up if his overarm measurement is more than 7" greater than chest. Is there a point one should size down? Would one be more likely to size down to get the right fit in a JAB suit? (I'm 5'-10".)

    thx again
     
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    Why don't you ship to Australia any more? I have worn your cashmere/wool trousers for a long time but now can't get them unless I ask favours from my American friends, which I am loathe to do. I would have thought in these times and with globalisation you would be expanding markets like all other companies, not contracting them.
     
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    I had recently purchased three JAB suits during the "Buy ONE get TWO free" sale. They were all of the signature line and I am very happy with the results. I also am very pleased that the OP has cleared alot of misconceptions and fears on this forum. Kudos to everyone who has participated in this thread so far.
     
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    I don't know of any other retailers that do this. It's a free service that we offer to all of our Corporate Card holders.

    Brooks Brothers has pressed my Golden Fleece suits before without any complaint. I just brought it in while shopping and asked if they could press it, and they happily obliged. I'm not sure how excited they would be about pressing their less expensive lines, but I don't predict any problems as long as you are polite about it and you aren't in for a pressing every other day. That said, it's not an advertised service like at JAB with their corporate members.
     
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    Long story short - personally (speaking only of MY managerial style in MY store) I would adjust the customer's price to reflect the better current sale. (I have never had this occue, by the way.)

    The Signature Gold and Platinum are very similar in construction. They both feature a lot of hand-work including pic stitching around the lapels, collar, and pockets and a Bemberg lining. In the Platinum you will get better quality wool on the outside and higher quality interior materials used in the chest pieces of the coat. Joseph, Signature, Signature Gold, and Signature Platinum are all able to have working buttonholes added, too.


    1. Are you sure that the pic stitching really hand done? You find pic stitching on really inexpensive suits, Zara for example, that is completely machine done. I would find it very anomalous for a retail $795 suit that is on perma-sale to have such significant hand work.

    2. Does the Platinum, then, have a canvas front?
     
  17. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    mcmillin,
    what size JAB jacket do you recommend to a customer that measures 42" across the chest and 47" overarm? One often reads to size up if his overarm measurement is more than 7" greater than chest. Is there a point one should size down? Would one be more likely to size down to get the right fit in a JAB suit? (I'm 5'-10".)

    thx again


    Our tailored clothing is pretty right-on as far as sizing vs measurements. I would start you in a 42R, and see how it fits. I don't think you could size down - if you have a 42" chest, you're going to start in a 42 jacket. That being said, you can always try a 41 and/or 43, too, if the 42 isn't the right one for you.
     
  18. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you ship to Australia any more? I have worn your cashmere/wool trousers for a long time but now can't get them unless I ask favours from my American friends, which I am loathe to do. I would have thought in these times and with globalisation you would be expanding markets like all other companies, not contracting them.

    I wasn't aware that we ever did ship overseas...or that we stopped. Sorry. We are still expanding in the US, but I don't see us going outside the country.
     
  19. mcmillin

    mcmillin Well-Known Member

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    1. Are you sure that the pic stitching really hand done? You find pic stitching on really inexpensive suits, Zara for example, that is completely machine done. I would find it very anomalous for a retail $795 suit that is on perma-sale to have such significant hand work. 2. Does the Platinum, then, have a canvas front?
    1. The Signature Gold and Platinum ($1095+) are the ones with the pic stitching, actually - not on the Signature ($795), and every piece of product knowledge literature I have seen on those lines says it is hand-work. 2. I'll have to check into it...but from what I remember the Signature Platinum has a 1/2 canvas chest piece. (If that isn't correct, I'll be sure to get back to you!) ***Sorry! Full canvas chest piece...***
     
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