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Johnston & Murphy - shoe opinions

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NYCniceguy, Mar 31, 2006.

  1. NYCniceguy

    NYCniceguy Well-Known Member

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    I am looking for some business casual shoes to wear with slacks to work and don't want to shell out $400-450 for Prada/Ferragamo/Gucci. Been browsing discount stores and saw a few Johnston & Murphy pairs for $100, made in Italy. What are people's opinions on these, and what other brands and stores in NYC should I consider? I'd like to stay under $300.
     
  2. odoreater

    odoreater Senior member

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    I have a pair of leather soled split toe Johnston & Murphys that might be kind of casual. A lot of people will say that the construction of J&Ms isn't what it used to be or whatever, but to be honest with you, this is my favorite pair of shoes. I prefer them over the two pairs of Allen-Edmons that I have including a pair of Shell Corodovan MacNeils. They are very comfortable, and quite nice looking in my opinion. I would not hesitate to buy J&Ms again.
     
  3. acidboy

    acidboy Senior member

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    i have 2 pairs of j&m's one i bought 7 years ago, a simple black lace-up and the other one was a cordovan buckled mid-cut boot in brown. the latest one has been relegated to "rain wear" because of the less-than-ideal quality that i now realize they have. good thing i bought it on sale.
     
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    JLibourel Senior member

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    I was very unimpressed with the quality and durability of a pair of J&Ms I bought for my stepson a few years ago. Not in the same street with A-E these days, IMO.

    Now, the old Johnston & Murphys were something else again. They made some very fine shoes in the not too distant past before they went offshore, by all accounts.
     
  5. NYCniceguy

    NYCniceguy Well-Known Member

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    Since when is Italy considered offshore in a bad way?
     
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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    One of J&Ms greatest problems is that they pale in comparison with Allen-Edmonds, which can be had regularly for $100-$150. You'd be much better off with AEs at this price point. AEs leather quality is much nicer, and the shoes are much better-made overall.

    That said, I think J&Ms, even now, are at least as nice as some fashion shoes that are significantly more expensive. Just don't expect great things. I have a pair of brown J&M captoes that are very comfortable, but they're just not aging in a very attractive fashion. I certainly won't have them in 20 years. But for a beater shoe, they're great. (I think I paid $50 for mine, and I'd suggest you try to get a similar bargain.)
     
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    Pennglock Senior member

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    As has been said, why bother when you can have Allen Edmonds for $50 more?

    Question for DocHolliday: Where are you getting AEs for 100-150??
     
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    As has been said, why bother when you can have Allen Edmonds for $50 more?


    Well, for me, for example, a size 11E in most Allen Edmonds models is a little bit too tight, and a size 11 EEE is a little bit too big (there is no size 11 EE), whereas Johnston & Murphy size 11W fits me perfectly.
     
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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    As has been said, why bother when you can have Allen Edmonds for $50 more?

    Question for DocHolliday: Where are you getting AEs for 100-150??


    Some discontinued models sell on eBay for less than $100 new. Nordstrom Rack often has a decent selection for $120-$140.
     
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    NoVaguy Senior member

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    As has been said, why bother when you can have Allen Edmonds for $50 more?

    Question for DocHolliday: Where are you getting AEs for 100-150??


    I'm not doc, but there are always brand new AE's available for 100-150 on ebay. Sometimes even less.

    See Ebay item 7754812871, 7754754828, 7755410259, 7754032977, for example. All completed items that sold (or in one case, didn't sell) that closed below $150.

    Now, if you want something specific, it might take a while. It took me 4 years to find a pair of brand new Garners at my price (below $100), but it happened.
     
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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm not doc, but there are always brand new AE's available for 100-150 on ebay. Sometimes even less.

    See Ebay item 7754812871, 7754754828, 7755410259, 7754032977, for example. All completed items that sold (or in one case, didn't sell) that closed below $150.

    Now, if you want something specific, it might take a while. It took me 4 years to find a pair of brand new Garners at my price (below $100), but it happened.


    I sold a pair of new AEs that went for a whopping $65. Ouch.
     
  12. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    I sold a pair of new AEs that went for a whopping $65. Ouch.

    Try using the fixed priced thing, and only list during the 10 cent listing specials (to minimize the listing fee hit if it doesn't sell). consider using the "best offer" option (although you have to deal with the jokers that send in $5 offers for $300 retail items)...

    that's what i do for brand new AE's (and shoes). about 33% of my stuff sells, and there are always some people who will make a deal after the listing ends unsold.
     
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    It also helps if you stay with normal sizes and widths (9 to 11, D or E). That's where most of the market is.
     
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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It also helps if you stay with normal sizes and widths (9 to 11, D or E). That's where most of the market is.

    These were 9Ds. I had hoped starting low would drive up the price. At one point, I had close to 30 watchers... but only about four ended up bidding.
     
  15. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    These were 9Ds. I had hoped starting low would drive up the price. At one point, I had close to 30 watchers... but only about four ended up bidding.


    i think 9D is the standard sample/display size. so you might have a slight over-supply problem.
     

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